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		<description><![CDATA[You would figure that @ 25 years old: 1) I wouldn&#8217;t have acne issues 2) That I wouldn&#8217;t let it control me like it does. Well, what the fuck. I take only 2 meds, Retin A as my creme, Minocycline as the pill. Minocycline works fine a good majority of the time. I took it [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would figure that @ 25 years old:</p>
<p>1) I wouldn&#8217;t have acne issues<br />
2) That I wouldn&#8217;t let it control me like it does.</p>
<p>Well, what the fuck.</p>
<p>I take only 2 meds, Retin A as my creme, Minocycline as the pill. Minocycline works fine a good majority of the time.  I took it 3 times over a 3 weeks period lately because i had my tonsils taken out and they didn&#8217;t want me to take it with all the pain killers i was on.</p>
<p>i still put on my retin a. over 3 weeks my face cleared up and improved. i guess the amount of water i drank helped.<br /><span id="more-334"></span></p>
<p>well, im off the pain killers and over the past 3 days, i have broken out big time. i dont understand it.  im back on my minocycline. im still keeping my water uptake the same.  </p>
<p>BULL SHIT</p>
<p>I&#8217;m broke. I have worked twice in 3 1/2 weeks.  At this point I don&#8217;t care about anything but having a clear face. It gets me through the day and it helps me be nice to people in some form or another. When I have break outs, I take out my frustration on everyone possible.  </p>
<p>I sent my dermatology office a email saying I need an appointment ASAP.  I&#8217;m pretty sure they won&#8217;t tell me anything new. They&#8217;ll attempt to put me on some other creme or pill that won&#8217;t work.  </p>
<p>I just hate my skin. Honestly, this is retarded, i&#8217;m 25. If there is a god, he can go fuck himself for cursing me with this shit.<br />I cannot recommend Roaccutane/Accutane (same thing) enough.</p>
<p>Get on it.<br />Ahh, all too familiar territory with me. I&#8217;ve been there too. Here is my experience:</p>
<p>-Minocycline: Great product, but as you said, you break out even more after you use it.. usually after 3 weeks of finishing the product.</p>
<p>-Retin A: Decent product, for the minor case. </p>
<p>-Accutane: Uh huh, probably the best one around. Good luck getting your derma to prescribe this. There are usually things to consider. Like, if he has put you on the same meds 3 times within a year, he may prescribe this. Also, there are side effects. I see you are getting angry&#8230; I had a friend go on accutane, worked miracles on his skin, but he was always angry and even threatened to kill his sister in front of his one day (found out that the meds he was taking gave him the anger side effect).</p>
<p>My reccommendations:<br />
After trying all of these, make sure you do the follow.<br />
A.) See what you are allergic too. You may be having an allergic reaction causing these breakouts.<br />
B.) Cut back on the chocolates and anything else that has been &quot;myth&quot; to cause breakouts.<br />
C.) Wash your face 3 times a day. Usually some Johnson &amp; Johnson clean and clear wash will do it. Results won&#8217;t be over night but you&#8217;ll start to notice.<br />
D.) If you play sports or do anything physical that makes you sweat, make SURE to take a shower after all the sweating.</p>
<p>I hope this all helps.<br />Have you ever been on Accutane? I was seeing a doctor who simply wasn&#8217;t going to put me on it. I kept getting creames and pills that not only didn&#8217;t help, but actually just turned my face bright right&#8230; not to mention each trip to the pharmacy cost $100+.</p>
<p>I moved to a new state two summers ago and was forced to see a new dermatologist, who put me on Accutane right away. <br />I have the same problem, I had a flawless face thru highschool and college and now that I&#8217;m rounding 25, I&#8217;ve been breaking out!  It sux ASSS!!!  So I know how ya feel&#8230;</p>
<p>Accutane, i&#8217;ve heard there are some serious mental/emotional issues that happen when you take that. Maybe that just happens with highschoolers and their damn hormonal issues. i dunno.</p>
<p>So far I use Burts Bees Herbal Blemish Remedy, it&#8217;s a roll on stick and works well, and than I also use St. Ive&#8217;s Apricot scrub and that seems to do the trick&#8230;<br />
Ohhh and use anything containing TEA TREE OIL (any body shop will have it) it&#8217;s a good natural way for use on acne w/out having to ingest pills.</p>
<p>Throwing it out there! <br />I have HORRIBLE breakouts and have had them all through middle school on.</p>
<p>I HIGHLY RECCOMEND CETAPHIL!!!!!!</p>
<p>I used every acne med and product ever. I have found that my face must not like all the other crap I put on it and all the extra products. I use the cetaphil bar soap that has antibacterial protection. Their lotion for face is also excellent because it won&#8217;t clog pores. I also do a scub with baking soda/baking powder/sugar(one of them) once or twice a week. </p>
<p>My mom works at Sephora, which has all the high end face washes to improve acne, they only made it worse. After returning to use just cetaphil, I noticed a difference within about a week.</p>
<p>Its worth a try in my opinion.<br />My brother had serious outbreaks but i never had a pimp due to my lifestyle. </p>
<p>My brother ate chocolate and fats, and didn&#8217;t work out a lot.  </p>
<p>I never ate chocolate or any other greasy stuff, and would go jogging 3 times a week. A non fat diet is what worked for me. But you can also be allergic,  A friend of mine was allergic to Mustard, got pimps all over his face. </p>
<p>There is this thing. You know when you eat , you can actually feel it, if your skin starts feeling strange after eating a certain product, then &#8216;that&#8217;s&#8217; the product you want to avoid. The Pimp remover creams and medicines might actually sometimes induce pimps, because they clean too deep, and the holes or pories can wonderfully filled up with even more bacteria causing more pimps. </p>
<p>My brother lost his pimp problem after he started using yeast creme. It was pretty effective. So healthy lifestyle + no fats/chocolate or eating stuff you are allergic to + jogging + good nights sleep , could improve your situation.<br />heck even at 35, i still get breakouts from time to time.  surely not in the amount that the OP does, but still.  basically,when i start breaking out, its time to get my hair cut short again.  my hair, holds too much oil (even with as half bald as i am), and i get real bad breakouts on my scapl, forehead, and around my ears.</p>
<p>try buzcutting or something! if your hair might be acting like a sponge&#8230; then eliminate the sponge!<br />my face actually isnt too bad today. i drank 64 ounces of water before going to bed and doubled up on my minocycline dosage which seems to be the key sometimes.  i was put on acutane and yes, it made me ANGRIER than fuck. and it wasnt just it made me angry, i felt down and out and lazy. grumpy. which in turns with my personality&#8230;made me hateful.<br />wow, your too unstable</p>
<p>i took accutane, the only problem i had was chapped lips<br />what&#8217;s worse than pimples are scars. srsly. </p>
<p>good thing im not that insecure <br />Try cetaphil&#8230;. its cheap at any drugstore/target.. atleast give it a week to see if you notice any change&#8230;. You actually might be able to get a coupon on their website&#8230;..<br />Cetaphil is awesome.</p>
<p>One thing I noticed is since I cleaned up my eating habits my skin is freaking out big time. I don&#8217;t know if it is my skin reacting to my body detoxing somewhat but my skin hasn&#8217;t been this bad in years. <br />Accutane &#8211; get it.</p>
<p>I did EVERYTHING &#8211; minocycline, tetracycline, creams, pills.  Its all bullshit.  Accutane will clear you up.</p>
<p>There are some serious probable side effects when you take Accutane.  You can have mental issues, you can&#8217;t give blood, get anyone preggers, etc.  </p>
<p>For me, my skin peeled like I had a sunburn for the first few weeks and then my lips were perma-chapped the entire time I was taking it.  However, I NEVER break out anymore.  I only regret not getting on it earlier.  Get it.<br />Late 30&#8242;s here (shit that sounds terrible am I that old?)&#8230;I break out once in a while. </p>
<p>My wife&#8217;s skin is flawless. She looks 10 years younger then she is.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s been guiding / scolding me to treat my skin in the following ways:</p>
<p>* keep my face clean.  Stop touching my face during the day after having touched a million things.</p>
<p>* treat my skin almost like it was it&#8217;s own living thing. Don&#8217;t use anything abrasive, don&#8217;t use hot water when washing my face, don&#8217;t overly dry it out, etc. She says the skin has a way of trying to repair itself when you damage it too much&#8230;and some of that involves overproduction of oils.</p>
<p>* keep pillows clean</p>
<p>* finally use some form of mild moisturizer to prevent the skin from producing excessive oils. It&#8217;s painful how much money some of my wife&#8217;s skin care products cost&#8230;but having tried some of the stuff she&#8217;s recommended, it&#8217;s worked better then the stuff the dermatologists used to give me in my teens.</p>
<p>Overall I&#8217;d recommend using the dermatologist&#8217;s suggestions to a certain degree, but from my experience you have to experiment with some alterations in your daily habit to see if those are the root of the cause as well. Just as you wouldn&#8217;t expect a diet pill to get rid of body weight by itself without exercise.
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<div style="font-style:italic">Cetaphil is awesome.</p>
<p>One thing I noticed is since I cleaned up my eating habits my skin is freaking out big time. I don&#8217;t know if it is my skin reacting to my body detoxing somewhat but my skin hasn&#8217;t been this bad in years. </p></div>
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When I started eating better, I found that my face did this too, and my face looked every worse..</p>
<p>But.. when i got off of my good eating kick, my face backed off and returned to normal.. I dunno if its just used to all the american greasy food or what?
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<div style="font-style:italic">When I started eating better, I found that my face did this too, and my face looked every worse..</p>
<p>But.. when i got off of my good eating kick, my face backed off and returned to normal.. I dunno if its just used to all the american greasy food or what?</p></div>
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I have no clue. Almost makes me want to go back and start eating crap food again. but I feel sooooo much better aside from my skin being an asshole  I mean, it&#8217;s not like I have such bad acne I need Accutane but it&#8217;s bad enough to piss me off <br />yea.. my skin is weird.. but i have found that just sticking to cetaphil and a moisturizer (i am not using dove intensive care or something) that wont clog pores, is hypoallergenic and all that junk, and using Seabreeze toner and using a cetaphil/baking soda scrub like once a week helps a lot. </p>
<p>I honestly think all that expensive crap for the face doesn&#8217;t help nearly as much yet.<br />I&#8217;ve never had huge problems with break outs but tanning clears my face up too.
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<div style="font-style:italic">yea.. my skin is weird.. but i have found that just sticking to cetaphil and a moisturizer (i am not using dove intensive care or something) that wont clog pores, is hypoallergenic and all that junk, and using Seabreeze toner and using a cetaphil/baking soda scrub like once a week helps a lot. </p>
<p>I honestly think all that expensive crap for the face doesn&#8217;t help nearly as much yet.</p></div>
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<p>Having said that, if you wear any makeup, the quality of makeup you use makes a difference (I&#8217;m assuming you might be a girl&#8230;.). Since I switched to Lancome foundation and Chanel powder, I&#8217;ve noticed a difference. Mind you I don&#8217;t wear makeup every day. But MAC makes me breakout, and the drugstore stuff? Forget it.<br />My mother went on accutane about 15 years ago. She never broke out again after it. I&#8217;m about half way through my second month.<br />I used to break out horribly but I was also about 70 lbs overweight, ate shitty food, and was never active.  Since losing the weight and living healthy the acne has gone away.  Just something to think about if your lifestyle isn&#8217;t so healthy.<br />Let&#8217;s all stress out about acne and take pills for acne then stress that they aren&#8217;t working until it becomes an unnatural, unstoppable cycle&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;wait a moment.<br />My suggestion is:</p>
<p>Limiting showers to once every two days.</p>
<p>Stop washing your face.</p>
<p>Stop using product.</p>
<p>Use up your pills until they are gone.</p>
<p>Stop caring about how you look, it&#8217;s not like you can think your way out of this one.</p>
<p>Allow the oil production to fall into a steady routine.</p>
<p>Voila. </p>
<p>See what you&#8217;re like when you just accept the fact you &quot;have&quot; acne. Learn to deal with that new you. And boom, it&#8217;s gone.<br />I break out when I get stressed out.</p>
<p>worst thing ever and it happens all to often lately.
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<p>				I had a friend go on accutane, worked miracles on his skin, but he was always angry and even threatened to kill his sister in front of his one day (found out that the meds he was taking gave him the anger side effect).</p>
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<p>Yeah, I had a friend in high school who went on Accutane. He also started working out&#8230; a lot.</p>
<p>He became a little dangerous to be around.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right. 6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends. fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around. I was fortunate to land a 100k/year job in melbourne [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right.</p>
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6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends.</p>
<p>fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to land a 100k/year job in melbourne australia (moving from adelaide)..went from 75k to 100&#8230;bang</p>
<p>i got an apartment in the city, met some awesome people, read the game, studied mystery method, real social dynamics and david deangelo.<br /><span id="more-82"></span></p>
<p>I have a new circle of friends and a new life.</p>
<p>This whole changed happened within a month, it just took me 5 months to realise i had to change my life.</p>
<p>To all those out there who think their lives are shit, mine was too. I did something about it.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind&#8230;.it never matters where you are now, just never lose sight of where you want to go.</p>
<p>J.<br />Thanks..kinda feeling like shit right now so that helps!
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<div style="font-style:italic">This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right.</p>
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6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends.</p>
<p>fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to land a 100k/year job in melbourne australia (moving from adelaide)..went from 75k to 100&#8230;bang</p>
<p>i got an apartment in the city, met some awesome people, read the game, studied mystery method, real social dynamics and david deangelo.</p>
<p>I have a new circle of friends and a new life.</p>
<p>This whole changed happened within a month, it just took me 5 months to realise i had to change my life.</p>
<p>To all those out there who think their lives are shit, mine was too. I did something about it.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind&#8230;.it never matters where you are now, just never lose sight of where you want to go.</p>
<p>J.</p></div>
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<p>I live in campbelltown Sydney and I hated travelling.<br />
Out of nowhere I landed an IT job in campbelltown 3 minutes from home.<br />
They are just waiting on the crminial clearance check and will formally offer it to me. But nevertheless Im stoked. I just kept on applying until I found something close to home. Problem in Sydney is that all the good paying jobs are in the city and I hate catching the train. I love my suburbs.</p>
<p>May I ask what kind of work you do to earn that top rate money?<br />
And congrats my friend</p>
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This thread is refreshing.</p>
<p>Kudos to you.<br />30k or so a year is where im at, I dont know how people get 100k a year jobs
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 20k or so a year is where im at, I dont know how people get 30k a year jobs
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<p>Yeah for some reason I was making like 12 bucks an hour.. and now every job I get is 17-20 dollars an hour and i dont know why</p>
<p>im not going to argue..</p>
<p>would be nice to make this 100k though.. 100k a year would be such an insane amount of money that I wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about anything.<br />Honestly I wouldnt doubt if this post makes a few people rethink their life. Grats.<br />thanks. that helps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy to hear that your life has turned around!<br />Its a corporate IT job in the heart of melbourne.</p>
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Everything has turned around, you can make a difference. and the only person that can make a difference is YOU.<br />Nice work on the job dude! And congrats on turning your life around! </p>
<p>I used to be chasing my own head up my arse 6 months ago up until probably a week ago (going nowhere, had no sense of direction) I sat down, ALONE and thought out what was in my head and what i really wanted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now training and getting myself prepared to apply to be a cop in 6 months time. Something different every day and the pays pretty good. After working in retail for 10 years, i&#8217;m sick of the mundane repetitive shit.</p>
<p>Maybe i&#8217;ll head down to Melbourne if they pay better down there  I&#8217;m up in QLD at the moment.. so we&#8217;ll see how things go.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always good to hear from people like you who have just made that shit happen and improved your life &#8211; nice work! 
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<p>Oh, the mysteries of life.. Hell, 100k every two years would be more then sufficient for me.</p>
<p>I really need to open my own business.<br />is it that your life is different or is it your view of it different?<br />Glad everything turned around. I remember when suicide was the only option in you head. Congrats.</p>
<p>Nice job man, its nice to hear people turn things around, hope your enjoying yourself.  Ive been itching to go to the down under for a long time and Melbourne is a pretty sweet town, I inadvertently became friends with numerous people over the net from Melbourne over the years and everyone from that town seems to be especially cool.  Hey next time your out and about ask around and see if anyone as heard of Maxwell Knight, I hear he is somewhat of a legend in Melbourne.
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<div style="font-style:italic">This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right.</p>
<p>6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends.</p>
<p>fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to land a 100k/year job in melbourne australia (moving from adelaide)..went from 75k to 100&#8230;bang</p>
<p>i got an apartment in the city, met some awesome people, read the game, studied mystery method, real social dynamics and david deangelo.</p>
<p>I have a new circle of friends and a new life.</p>
<p>This whole changed happened within a month, it just took me 5 months to realise i had to change my life.</p>
<p>To all those out there who think their lives are shit, mine was too. I did something about it.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind&#8230;.it never matters where you are now, just never lose sight of where you want to go.</p>
<p>J.</p></div>
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<p>You&#8217;re welcome.  <br />ive also met a bunch of hot womenz, and now i need to learn how to dance <img src='http://www.easylum.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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also, im gonna start taking capoeira lessons&#8230;hehe
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<div style="font-style:italic">ive also met a bunch of hot womenz, and now i need to learn how to dance <img src='http://www.easylum.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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also, im gonna start taking capoeira lessons&#8230;hehe</div>
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<p>Dance classes are a great way to meet women and also learn how to impress them.</p>
<p>Capoeira is so much fun BTW.
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<div style="font-style:italic">Dance classes are a great way to meet women and also learn how to impress them.</p>
<p>Capoeira is so much fun BTW.</p></div>
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<p>hahah sweet! having fun is the idea!<br />cool shit.  I&#8217;ve kind of done the same thing, but only 3 months ago.
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<p>do you think those dating books were the reason why you have a better life than what you had 6 months ago?</p>
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because they helped me very minimally when i tried readin them
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<p>Capoeira is so much fun BTW.</p></div>
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you do capowedda?</p>
<p>ooo</p>
<p>I like you more
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<div style="font-style:italic">do you think those dating books were the reason why you have a better life than what you had 6 months ago?</p>
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<p>Reading them does nothing.  Actually using the tools is the key.<br />yeah, learning how to meet people is the important part.</p>
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Learning how to speak to girls and not looking like a dick is also important.
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<div style="font-style:italic">you do capowedda?</p>
<p>ooo</p>
<p>I like you more</p></div>
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<p> I tried. I used to do tae kwon do which I am currently thinking of taking up again. Also love kickboxing. My legs are ridiculously strong.
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<p>Do brazillian jiujitsu!<br />my latest post</p>
<p>check that out&#8230;<br />thats pretty awesome&#8230;. I hope to be in the same position as you soon</p>
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Several years ago I was in your shoes as far as life sucking goes. It took a year and a half to turn things around but I did it. I got out of debt, bought my first house, married a long time boyfriend (yeah it took us 7 years to make it to the altar) and saw my mom get remarried (dad died 8 years previous).  Part of it was letting go of some shit that was eating at my soul, and the other half was to quit worrying about what everyone else was doing and focusing on myself and where I needed to be.</p>
<p>In my opinion, as long as you still wake up each morning and have your life and your health, you haven&#8217;t truly lost it all and are doing better than a million others out there.
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<p>become a cyclist!   join the dark side! <br />Ive done what you have done. Met alot of ppl etc.</p>
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But somehow I cant land a longterm friendship. Last week I called and checked with two aquiantaces what they where doing and such, so that got me into 3 parties last weekend. We where supposed to meet up during the week, but none of those people I called a week ago contacted me since then&#8230; its like they forgot. And I dont want to call them back.</p>
<p>Then these womenz I met, I got their numbers, msged on facebook and I called on up. She was glad to hear from me and such, but the convo ended with her saying she would call me back up for a party or something&#8230;</p>
<p>but now the weekend is here and Im alone as always. :wtc.
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<div style="font-style:italic">This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right.</p>
<p>
6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends.</p>
<p>fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to land a 100k/year job in melbourne australia (moving from adelaide)..went from 75k to 100&#8230;bang</p>
<p>i got an apartment in the city, met some awesome people, read the game, studied mystery method, real social dynamics and david deangelo.</p>
<p>I have a new circle of friends and a new life.</p>
<p>This whole changed happened within a month, it just took me 5 months to realise i had to change my life.</p>
<p>To all those out there who think their lives are shit, mine was too. I did something about it.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind&#8230;.it never matters where you are now, just never lose sight of where you want to go.</p>
<p>J.</p></div>
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Its funny u mentioned RSD. Their videos have turned my life around completely. Tyler is such a sick motivational speaker. Tim, Jeffy, Ozzie, Hoobie are also great. </p>
<p>Which ones have you seen and what are some of your fav parts in the videos?
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<p>I&#8217;m actually about to buy a bike as well. I&#8217;m really into riding one around this local 5 mile trail.<br />First off, awesome job on turning your life around and bettering yourself for you. I think that is the most important thing about all of this, if anything.</p>
<p>However, one thing I noticed was that you got two dating books.. but yet, you don&#8217;t mention anything about dating a lot of women or having a gf. What&#8217;s up wit dat?!
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<p>I got into cycling 6 years ago, and it&#8217;s changed my life.  As cliche as that sounds, it&#8217;s true.  I&#8217;m 1000x more fit, more confident, more competitive, all-around a more positive person.
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<p>I got into cycling 6 years ago, and it&#8217;s changed my life. As cliche as that sounds, it&#8217;s true. I&#8217;m 1000x more fit, more confident, more competitive, all-around a more positive person.</p></div>
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<p>I might go buy one today <br />awesome man  i remember reading your threads about things being shitty.</p>
<p>glad everything is workin out<br />I want to put this thread in OT&#8217;s archives and then link this thread in the Asylum Wisdom, you ok with that? I&#8217;ll still leave it open for a week or 3 for people to post more replies. 
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Thats cool man!</p>
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Ill post pics of my progression from being a chode to where i am now <br />here is my OT recovery diary&#8230;weird</p>
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Topic<br />
Going through a tough stage of my life&#8230; <br />
09-12-2007<br />
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Hi All<br />
Long time member first time poster&#8230;<br />
Well its been two weeks since my girlfriend decided that she didnt want a relationship any more. We were together for 3 years and it hurt like mad when she told me.<br />
She was thin, hot, smart, good in bed and had a great personality, she had career goals and wanted to do something with herself, she is also outgoing and quite social.<br />
pic for reference (me on the right)</p>
<p>at first i thought i was going to be ok. But now ive realised that she is never coming back and i dont just miss her but i miss her friends (who might now have only been friends with me through her) and i also miss the companionship. I was taking it quite hard and i went to see a counsellor about how i can get my life on track.<br />
You see the problem is that she has lost nothing, if she fell out of love with me then so be it, but she has lost NOTHING, i have lost friends, sex, her&#8230;all sorts and she is tough skinned and i know she is over me already and that hurts.</p>
<p>Anyways last sunday i went for a drive to clear my head, i got a phone call from a family friend to say that my mum had taken a bunch of pills and tried to OD. She had been rushed to hospital and was in a coma like state for 6 days.<br />
My mother knew i was depressed because of my GF situation and thought she caused it, she took 20 or so sleeping pills and 16 valium in an attempt to commit suicide. Thankfully the pills she took werent fatal, and when she came to (6 days later) she said she was doing it for me to free me and to make me move on and get on with my life&#8230;<br />
This in itself hurt and outshadowed the GF situation&#8230;.but now leaves me with other issues. You see i only really had two people in my life, my gf and my mum, i lost my gf and i almost lost my mum, if i did lose mum then i would have most definately ended my own life just from the overload of bad shit going on.</p>
<p>anyways its been 10 days since mum did that and she is well again (going to therapy about the attempted suicide) and i am suprisingly ok but still bitter.</p>
<p>I have applied for jobs in different cities just to get away and have a fresh start, the last thing i want to do is see my ex-gf arm in arm with some other guy, i worshipped the ground she stood on&#8230;some girls have it so good.</p>
<p>anyways<br />
just thought id sign in.<br />
Jim<br />
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i cant help but think ill never do better than her&#8230; <br />
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Guys<br />
Its now been two months since my girlfriend broke up with me.<br />
At first i thought id be ok, staying positive. So far ive only talked to a small hand full of girls and havent had a sniff of anything that id be remotely attracted to.<br />
I now cant help but think that my ex gf WAS in fact out of my league, she was pretty, thin, smart and had a good personality. She was also very shallow and mean sometimes, but she did love me and i cant get passed that.</p>
<p>I have run into the problem now that she has a new boyfriend and she is all healed, and moved on. I know what i need to do, i need to go out, and meet people and hook up.<br />
Problem is i live in a small town, the ex lived in a city 2 hours away. She has hundreds of friends, lots of things to do, i live in a small town, i have one work mate who doesnt like going out and apart from that i have no other mates.<br />
I cant help but wonder if this was the one that ill be talking about for years&#8230;ie &quot;yeah i once went out with a super hot chick&#8230;etc&quot; i dont want it to be but at the moment my social life is so stale that i dont know what to do.<br />
I hate to think that she was so much better than me but im almost starting to beleive it, i dont want to lower my standards, i definately dont want to get back with her, but i dont want someone who im gonna be wishing was something more&#8230;.if you hear me.</p>
<p>I know time will heal these wounds, but at the moment the wounds are still quite deep and dont show any signs of healing soon.</p>
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Is it normal? <br />
9-19-2007<br />
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Is it normal to hate my ex?<br />
part of me thinks that i shouldnt, because this time 3 months ago all was peachy, but since the breakup (even though i am jealous as shit of her) i really cant stand her, she has a new boyfriend so whatever, but if i saw her i would be furious, if i spoke to her i couldnt help but be bitter towards her.<br />
I really hate her.<br />
I hate her for making me feel like crap. I hate her for not loving me.</p>
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OT I am so fucked <br />
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two weeks ago i hooked up with this girl, there were three girls at a bar and i grabbed one, and my mate ben also became friends with them.<br />
The girl i hooked up with was the sweetest and most innocent girl i have ever met, she actually liked me, <br />
me being the big shot hero that i thought i was, didnt pay much attention to her and thought i could do better,<br />
Now my mate ben is still hanging out with them and im hella jealous, why? because i think i actually like this girl.<br />
After a week of brushing her off and trying to get her off my case i tel her that i like her (after she tells me the same on sat night)<br />
Only to hear from her &quot;i was mixed up, i think we should just be friends&quot;<br />
I certainly fucked up a good thing, i was too concerned that my friends wouldnt like this girl, i even organised a date with her to which i told her two days before hand that i couldnt go through with it.<br />
She actually liked me and i just didnt care&#8230;it filled my ego enough to make me think ill get someone better</p>
<p>then last night i had a massive fight with my work buddy and close friend Nick because him and i were out and he was making fun of me in order to get laughs from ladies.</p>
<p>so right now, i have no friends, i made a girl that liked me, hate me, and now she doesnt even want to know me.</p>
<p>I am so fucked up, i have no one to turn to. I even thought about taking the easy way out, my life is shit.<br />
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Today, more than ever I felt like ending my life <br />
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Today and this week has been horrible for me.<br />
Apart from things that happend a few weeks ago (GF Breaking up with me, Mother attempting suicide) This week i have hurt my back, caught a cold and i have an acne outbreak on my head.</p>
<p>I weighed up my options today and it was a really really viable option, obviously thus far i havent done it, but it made so much sense about an hour ago&#8230;</p>
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TURNAROUND<br />
My life&#8230;so different to 6 months ago <br />
3-17-2008<br />
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This is for those who care, those who dont, X at the top right.</p>
<p>6 months ago my life was shit, shit job, no girlfriend, stuck in a small town, no friends.<br />
fast forward to now, a fortunate series of events has turned me around.<br />
I was fortunate to land a XXXk/year job in melbourne australia (moving from adelaide)..went from XXk to XXX&#8230;bang<br />
i got an apartment in the city, met some awesome people, read the game, studied mystery method, real social dynamics and david deangelo.<br />
I have a new circle of friends and a new life.<br />
This whole changed happened within a month, it just took me 5 months to realise i had to change my life.</p>
<p>To all those out there who think their lives are shit, mine was too. I did something about it.</p>
<p>Keep that in mind&#8230;.it never matters where you are now, just never lose sight of where you want to go.</p>
<p>J.<br />Man, I&#8217;m so glad to hear you&#8217;re doing so well!  I was really worried about you when you first started this thread. Way to turn it around, Ace!! </p>
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<div style="font-style:italic">Its funny u mentioned RSD. Their videos have turned my life around completely. Tyler is such a sick motivational speaker. Tim, Jeffy, Ozzie, Hoobie are also great. </p>
<p>Which ones have you seen and what are some of your fav parts in the videos?</p></div>
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<p>I checked out their site based on the OP&#8217;s first post and wow&#8230; i&#8217;m going to get the dvds&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly outgoing and social but I&#8217;ve seen a lot of good things about them.<br />Guys</p>
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I want someone to put this thread as a sticky, to show how ive turned it around.</p>
<p>Let them know i can be contacted if they need help.</p>
<p>Jim<br />i can&#8217;t wait to finish school and focus on a good job, feels like it&#8217;s never going to be over 
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<p>No you don&#8217;t. trust me on this.</p>
<p>If you think that, you&#8217;re doomed for failure. enjoy college.<br />Just so you all know</p>
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All is still well <br />Great post. Congratulations on all that has come your way. Good luck with everything. <br />you mentioned the dating books and stuff&#8230; did you develop a friend base from talking to/meeting up with people that were interested in and using that stuff as well? or did you make friends as a result of being more social and stuff due to the dating advice?
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<div style="font-style:italic">No you don&#8217;t. trust me on this.</p>
<p>If you think that, you&#8217;re doomed for failure. enjoy college.</p></div>
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<p>Not neccessarily. I&#8217;m actually enjoying life more now than I was in university. Simply matured and became the person I want to be in that time<br />Yeah I think I want to carry the same words of encouragement for all you out there. Life can change very fast if you simply make that decision to take action.</p>
<p>I first joined OT during some very down point in my life &#8212; dead-ended a relationship that really went nowhere to begin with, had a job that was taking me nowhere after having worked day in and day out there for 8 years, sat in a dark one bedroom condo where the only view out the patio was a neighbor no less then 20 feet away from me.  I came to OT for a little bit of solace at my brother&#8217;s recommendation because he noticed how down I felt.</p>
<p>I was feeling very lonely, very bored, very unsatisfied. The same feelings I see posted here on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where I just made the decision but I said, &quot;fuck it, I&#8217;m gonna change this&quot;.</p>
<p>Right away, quit my job and started my own business<br />
Met the girl of my dreams and married her 2 years later<br />
1 year after getting married to the day we get a beautiful condo 10 minutes away from the beach. While I work I get to see the blue sky and the ocean.<br />
And now just this week we got the news she&#8217;s pregnant.</p>
<p>All this in a span of just 3 years. My life has done a complete flip. I half expect to open my eyes tomorrow and this was all a big dream.</p>
<p>If I have any complaints at all left in life is that it&#8217;s almost TOO fast. It was almost like someone bigger then me said, &quot;OK, you wanted all of this, here&quot; and dropped it all on my table at once. </p>
<p>The point, for those of you feeling like the world just sucks or if you&#8217;re feeling like you&#8217;re in pause, the first step is just to tell yourself it can happen and you can do it. Looking back as to what happened with me I believe there was just that ONE moment where I flicked the mental switch and decided I had enough.  Then it life just changed very rapidly.</p>
<p>Keep your head up.<br />That&#8217;s good to hear Toasty&#8230; What was the business you decided to go with? I&#8217;m trying to start my own side business just to keep occupied, but I&#8217;m not sure if it can go anywhere (it&#8217;s graphic design, and painting. Perhaps I could sell my prints if they&#8217;re good enough?)<br />my life is different too&#8230; sometimes i dont whether its for better or worse. my good friends have changed a lot, its almost weird to see.
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<p>Graphic Design.  The good thing was that I was that I had used my previous workplace as training grounds for my own biz&#8230;otherwise I think I would have had to run uphill a little harder. It&#8217;s scary having nobody to lean on but myself&#8230;but it&#8217;s also given me so many rewards.</p>
<p>As far as my perspective on your paintings and prints?  Go for it.  If you don&#8217;t get them out there, the only person holding you back right now is yourself.  How is anyone else going to determine if you&#8217;re good enough right? The rest you&#8217;ll just figure out by doing.</p>
<p>As far as friends go, as I see mentioned often here. I&#8217;m a firm believer that you ARE often whom you associate with.  If you surround yourself with hardworking and successful people, that vibe will rub off on you.  If you sit around all day with potheads that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ll end up doing all day.  I&#8217;m not saying you should ditch your friends (potheads are nice people too)&#8230;but successful people are more then willing to share their tips and secrets with you if you but ask.  This goes for anything, you want to be happy/motivated/fit/loved etc, you look for these kinds of people and you learn from them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still figuring out life myself in many ways, but these are tactics that have helped me a bit over the years.
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<div style="font-style:italic">do you think those dating books were the reason why you have a better life than what you had 6 months ago?</p>
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because they helped me very minimally when i tried readin them</div>
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<p>hows it goin bro, looks like you gave up on the sub too 
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<div style="font-style:italic">Graphic Design.  The good thing was that I was that I had used my previous workplace as training grounds for my own biz&#8230;otherwise I think I would have had to run uphill a little harder. It&#8217;s scary having nobody to lean on but myself&#8230;but it&#8217;s also given me so many rewards.</p>
<p>As far as my perspective on your paintings and prints?  Go for it.  If you don&#8217;t get them out there, the only person holding you back right now is yourself.  How is anyone else going to determine if you&#8217;re good enough right? The rest you&#8217;ll just figure out by doing.</p>
<p>As far as friends go, as I see mentioned often here. I&#8217;m a firm believer that you ARE often whom you associate with.  If you surround yourself with hardworking and successful people, that vibe will rub off on you.  If you sit around all day with potheads that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ll end up doing all day.  I&#8217;m not saying you should ditch your friends (potheads are nice people too)&#8230;but successful people are more then willing to share their tips and secrets with you if you but ask.  This goes for anything, you want to be happy/motivated/fit/loved etc, you look for these kinds of people and you learn from them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still figuring out life myself in many ways, but these are tactics that have helped me a bit over the years.</p></div>
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<p>Interesting. I have to say I&#8217;m an amateur-ish guy for it. I already have a few pieces but I am trying to make a website this summer to show my work. I think it&#8217;s a good step forward.. Thanks for the words of encouragement, I will try to meet some people.</p>
<p>I will go to an art show over the weekend, and perhaps they can give me pointers and I can meet some people </p>


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