My: A Man’s Ultimate Guide for Successful Dating:

You should cross-post this in the vag as well. Maybe push for a sticky.
No, I disagree with your opinion on shyness. It seems pretty good otherwise
Although I agree with most of what you say, why should anyone read it?

Establish some credibility! Show some pictures! Share a lot of personal success stories!

As far as I know, you could have just finished reading The Game, Double Your Dating, or The Mystery Method (or venutian arts, whatever its called), it made sense to you, and you’re just summarizing and paraphrasing everything you read.

I’m not disrespecting what you wrote, namely before I agree with it, but I could find the same ideas, more professionally written, in Double Your Dating or a combination of other popular books. Normally I would not criticize how well something is written on a message board, but it looks like you put effort into it and this isn’t exactly an "informal" post.

As an English Major, it’s important to me to recognize when a person with good ideas and a passion to write about it is not able to effectively get the desired message across.

Initially, aside from the suggestions I mentioned above, I would attempt to explain your ideas through stories. If you can’t relate personally, then make up stories. Stories always seem to sink in a lot better than a "how-to" guide.
, what exactly do you disagree with? Please ellaborate.

Socrates, I’ve been on these forums for some time with the Dating Advice. My cred has already been established. Besides, the stuff speaks for itself. Challenge the point not the poster.
I just do not see "shyness as a condition influenced by fear and anxiety".

Who are you?

This was basically just a dumbed down version of double your dating.

you hit a lot of good points diggity… a lot.

what else could it be from then?
LOL double your dating = try a lot and you’ll get more dates then not trying at all.

the majority of guys that get it do not date and them he makes them ask a lot of girls out and they start dating…..

I didn’t read his posts yet, but some people are naturally introverted.

LOL double your dating = try a lot and you’ll get more dates then not trying at all.

the majority of guys that get it do not date and them he makes them ask a lot of girls out and they start dating…..

Could you elaborate more? I think I would understand where you are coming much more if you took some time to go into details regarding your opinion on the matter. Are you relating your opinion to yourself? What kind of situations have you found yourself in?

Since you brought it up.

1. As an English Major

This should be, "English major."

2. "As an English Major, it…"

This is semantically incorrect. The adjective phrase preceding a sentence modifies the subject of that sentence. You mean to say, "As an English major, I…"

"As an English Major, it…" tells the reader that "it" is an English major.

3. "it’s important to me to recognize" is awkward. "I find it important to recognize…" is preferable.

4. "a person with good ideas and a passion to write about it"

This is the most egregious error in the sentence. What part of the sentence does "it" refer to here? Think about that for a moment.

5. "to effectively get" splits an infinitive when there are palatable alternatives.
thanks dd… long time no see. i remember your posts from way back, before you disappeared.

"deep seeded" should be "deep-seated," btw.

A good way to do that is to find a hobby. Everyone has something they love to do. Find a hobby that you enjoy that you are good at, something you take pride in. It could be weight lifting, it could be art, it could be swimming, it could be martial arts, it could be poker, it could be anything. Just something that allows you to get out there and compete. Competition is healthy. When you see how well you are doing, you tend to feel better about yourself.

This is like putting a band aid on a broken leg. I know, because I’ve tried it. I joined up softball earlier in the year and played and it was wonderful for building self-confidence….until the season ended. It’s just a boost for you. Like a shot of whiskey or a joint. It’s a high. And I urge you to do this for those highs in the beginning when you are the lowest. BUT it’s only a START.

The most surefire and permanent way to build true self-confidence is to be honest with yourself. Painfully honest with yourself. Be so honest that it hurts and ADMIT YOUR PROBLEMS AND ISSUES AND YOUR FAILURES TO YOURSELF. Admit to yourself that you are wrong and FACE those issues head on instead of trying to forget about them. You’ll discover that in time it gets easier to do and soon you don’t even CARE if someone rags on you about something because you’ve removed the doubt of "is this person right?" by facing your own issues and what you know is true about yourself and came out of denial. So if someone challenges you, you are equipped to know that whether that challenge is founded or unfounded. Soon you get to a place when you love it when people are brutally honest with you because you use that honesty to grow and become a better person. You don’t fear your faults and insecurities anymore, but you face them head on. And NOTHING absolutely nothing builds self-confidence like facing your biggest insecurities and fears.

This is the easiest thing. All it takes is an open mind, and money. For a hairstyle, go to a popular beauty saloon and ask a cute hairstylist what types of hairstyles she recommends and tell her you’re doing a makeover. Pick which suggestion sounds the best and just risk it. Go for it. Don’t trust your own opinion if you don’t think you look good.

For stylish clothing go to a couple popular and trendy clothing stores at the mall. If you don’t know what is trendy, ask a attractive guy whom seems to have style. When you go to these stores, find a cute girl working there and tell her that you’re doing a makeover and ask her to put together several outfits for you. Even if you’re uncertain, just go for it. She’s there to help, and she probably has a better taste for style than your self.

Blah blah blah blah blah. THIS IS WHAT WOMEN DO. You are a man. Dress the way you WANT to dress and stop trying to be trendy. Girls don’t WANT guys with a fashion sense. You know why? BECAUSE GUYS WITH FASHION SENSES TEND TO BE GAY. That’s why. You are a man, be a man. Wear what YOU like and stop trying to fit some mold just to make the "cover" look nice to a woman.

Learn to attract women using your personality, your wit, and your charm and fuck trying to make yourself look "pretty" for her.

I’ve always said that all a man needs is the three C’s and he can get virtually any woman he desires. Confidence, Character, and Charisma.

Why Do Guys Have To Do The Approaching?

We are in a world where the best rewards come from hard work and accomplishment. This nice guy has given her everything for free. If he was that easy to achieve, then how great can he be?

I really, really liked these sections and the way you worded them. Good job.

As far as the phone, email, AIM, text, etc goes… you need to keep this contact short. Don’t chat all day like you are one of her girlfriends. What your goal should be is to get to know her in person during a date or couple hangout. You don’t want to become chat pals. When you call, keep it less than 10 minutes, and call with a purpose. You’re calling to schedule a time you can meet up next, not to share life stories. So don’t let yourself get sidetracked and get caught chatting about this or that for too long. Remember your purpose, you’re calling to set up a date.

The same rule applies with texting or instant messengers. You’re not to establish or rely on electronic communication more than is necessary. Doing it a little here or there, great, but if you’re using it as a crutch… that’s bad. When you do text, try to be interesting as well. You can send messages like, “Guess what I’m doing?” and wait for a reply, even if it ends up being the next day. Be interesting. Of course she’s going to be wondering what you’re doing. She’ll eventually respond unless she absolutely does not want to talk to you.

This only applies to the beginning of a relationship (perhaps the first 2 or 3 moths).

In fact, I encourage you guys to actually use these tools to your advantage. Most of us are on message boards because we have a little "writer" in us. We write and articulate how we feel and think better through writing than we do through words (at least that’s the case for me). And being able to do that with a woman is HUGE if you want to build a long term relationship with her.

Don’t be so quick to discount IM convos and text messaging. Women LOVE this shit and if you do it right you can really use this to your advantage.
Viper,

Guys who peacock well make girls’ breasts stick up. So I would disagree

Viper,

Guys who peacock well make girls’ breasts stick up. So I would disagree

Peacocking works. I never said it didn’t.

But you don’t HAVE to do it. I can be just as successful with my wit and charm in a pair of blue jeans and a t-shirt from a yard sale or something as a man wearing trendy shit.

Peacocking works. I never said it didn’t.

But you don’t HAVE to do it. I can be just as successful with my wit and charm in a pair of blue jeans and a t-shirt from a yard sale or something as a man wearing trendy shit.

that’s true but if you have a goal you should do what you can to get there. if it helps then it speaks for itself.

so, no, wearing shitty clothing won’t preclude you getting any.

otoh, wearing good clothing will help.

Myself, no. I have known 3 guys who purchased Deangelo’s tapes. All 3 were introverted "nerds" and the second they got the tapes and realized that they could "talk" to women, they started dating. They tried being "cocky and funny" and failed horribly since it was the exact opposite of who they are as people, and they started being successful after numerous dates and experience with multiple women.

The best way to summarize Deangelo is – date more to date more. His entire "cocky and funny" concept is something that I feel comes naturally with time, patience and experience with talking to people. He is basically telling people to become more interesting and successful to become more interesting and successful, but this is not for themselves but for others, so I can not see how authentic or powerful this could ultimately be.

I prefer the Tom Leykis philosophy to the Deangelo one – just do not give a shit about women. To me, this leaves people open to growth and development, since they are able to authentically work on themselves for themselves and not for that "moment you create attraction".

Multiple people online have blasted Denangelo’s work, since there is a female he has been seen on tape with that writes the EXACT same book for women, just with their "rules". I hate seeing these rule games. I prefer for myself and others to fully connect with what they want to get in a situation and to find their own way to get it.

I have said before on the forum "A "man" does what a "man" wants to do, and thats what makes him a "man". The same concept works here – confidently and powerfully approach any situation, regardless if it is dating, or work, or school , etc etc, and you will be fine. The entire point is to live through it for the next time, and then the next time, and the next. Thats how you develop into a powerful person.

Experience and emotional development is of supreme importance, not a person telling you specific rules or regulations who is actually just giving out very veiled inspirational videos. Thats all this man is doing – reminding you that one day, somewhere, for some reason, a "woman" will find what you do attractive, and will initiate the relationship and you will not be able to control it, and you will not be able to get her OFF of you. Thats how it is.

A good real life example would be – if you ever had a little child get a crush on you. You were sitting there, and out of no where, the kid gets a crush on you, for what you think is no reason. Did you try? No. (Unless you are a Pedo, to which I say fuck you.) You just were doing your thing and it happens, and you can not get them to leave you alone.

This is what is happening when you "create attraction" with females. You can not control it, you can only wait around and catch it. You yourself can not emotionally trigger a person, they allow themselves to be triggered emotionally as a attempt to meet an unmet need or to express a met one.

I remember when I turned 22, all of these 17-19 year old girls started to get interested in me, for NO reason. Basically, I did not give a shit about them, and they started begging me for dates. Life is weird in this way.

The ultimate question is – How do I get chicks? The answer is – You just do.

I can not give you an authentically better answer then that.

I never read Deangelo but I have heard about him. I disagree that "cocky and funny" is the opposite of who those guys are. Being "cocky and funny" isn’t who you are, it’s how you express yourself. If they aren’t comfortable with expressing themselves that way then they will fail. That doesn’t mean if they try to express themselves in a different way and eventually like it and become more proficient with it, that they won’t be able to do it. They can, if they really want to and are willing to put in the work to become comfortable with it.

I am not saying that this is the way to go, nor am I saying it’s the only way to go. I am just saying in response to your point that acting "Cocky and Funny" isn’t who a person is at their core, it’s just a manner of expressing themselves. A guy who isn’t funny to most people still has a sense of humor, he might just not have the social skills to deliver his sense of humor in a way that other people appreciate. That does not mean that he cannot learn to do this through practice and experience.

If a person doesn’t want to learn it, then they won’t.

Agreed.

I guess you’re going off an Deangelo again here?

I sort of disagree here. Yes, you cannot make someone do anything, but your actions can have a powerful influence on attractions. If you are chatting with a girl and acting completely desperate or sending any other number of unattractive signals, she could turn you down whereas if you were doing things that sent much more positive signals about your self as a strong independant and healthy person, you are in a much more powerful position to influence that attraction in a positive direction.

I don’t think it was so weird, I just think you were displaying a Higher Value. When you were in High School you may not have stood out as much with your peers, but once you were older and out of High School you probably seemed much more "cool". In addition, if you didn’t give a shit, this also aids you in displaying a Higher Value. They didn’t have any hold over you. This tells them that you’re at least their equal, or they may even see you as a "superior" as you were older and such.

It is true that women are more likely to be attracted to "better guys" with "higher value". The truth is that many "hot guys" still can not get laid. Do figure, they have the same problems as the "nerds", and in individual situations if the girl does not like the guy, he is hard pressed to change that.

There are so many factors to if a girl likes you or not, such as if she has meet other likable people lately, is in a good mood or not, ate food that morning, etc etc, that I can not see it as anyones fault that she has or has not felt attracted to someone.

Well said.

I’m sorry but this is retarded. Some guys have no idea of what they look like and tend to look stupid. There is nothing wrong with having a fashion sense and in fact it shows that you actually care about yourself.
I am not saying you have to be preppy, you could do anything, even the goth route, but at least know how to dress it. If you are completely clueless about your appearence and if you look like a bum or an idiot then you’ll be sending people the wrong signals.

I fully believe in caring about yourself above other people’s opinion but you can obviously take that too far. Sometimes being a rock head in regards to certain things actually puts up a roadblock rather than aiding you.

No one is saying that you have to attract women with just your looks, this whole article is about preparing yourself the best you can, and a sad fact of life is that your biggest impression is your first impression. Know what you look like. Know how to highlight yourself.

Who said pretty? And who said dress for her? Look good for yourself.

You forgot the most important C out there. Competence. I’d rather have the competence to meet women than the confidence. I heard it equated to this:

If you jump from an airplane, would you rather have the confidence to pull the parachute, or the competence?

Thanks!

Of course. When you are building your connection, it’s best to do it in person and limit those things. Once she’s won over and/or you’re in a relationship, there’s not as dire a need to watch your steps and signals. You’d be beyond that.

No one said that you cannot use electronic communication. But your primary focus should be to develope the connection in person and to limit your dependency to IM’s, emails, and text messaging. Even the phone. Those tools should primarily be used to set up dates in the beginning, not to be your method of dating.
Competence, to me, IS a character trait.

And clothes and fashion don’t amount to a hill of shit. It’s not important. yeah, as JJJ said, it HELPS, but someone who needs a post like this to score women has far more important shit to worry about than the way they dress.

Competence, to me, IS a character trait.

And clothes and fashion don’t amount to a hill of shit. It’s not important. yeah, as JJJ said, it HELPS, but someone who needs a post like this to score women has far more important shit to worry about than the way they dress.

Competence denotes a level of mastery of something, not a part of your character.

You just admitted your dress helps. If it helps, why not give a tiny little mention to it? You’re really blowing that part out of proportion. What is the real issue here? One of the good parts of your post was admitting your issues. Clearly there is some underlying issue here with a person’s appearence. You admit appearence "helps" but then respond nastily to any mention or tips on how to improve it.
And if the way you’re dressed didn’t amount to shit, then go out there and pick up every girl you can dressed to kill, and then go out there wearing mismatched out of style rags and pick up all the same girls. Then tell me it doesn’t amount to shit. Appearence helps. The biggest part is clearly your Self Confidence, your Social Skills, and your Self Respect… which all help give you Value. How you take care of yourself is how most people make a quick judgement on how you feel about yourself. Dressing up and looking good is a means to assist you in delivering a message that you are somebody. It’s not always required but it is an asset and to deny that is just wrong.

I’ve been thinking about testing this theory for a LONG time. I always said that you could pick up a girl wearing only a feed sack if you had the confidence and the charisma to do it.
people actually read this kind of stuff?

I didn’t read it but if simple dating doesn’t come natural it’s because you haven’t had much experience with it.

Want to get good at dating? go on more dates. /thread

people actually read this kind of stuff?

I didn’t read it but if simple dating doesn’t come natural it’s because you haven’t had much experience with it.

Want to get good at dating? go on more dates. /thread

I see this type of post all of the time from people who have this come naturally to them, at least to a point where dating isn’t an issue. This thread is not for guys like that. You won’t get it, and neither do you need to be condescending or arrogant about it.

There are a lot of guys out there who have no idea what they are doing. They always end up "the friend", they always get rejected, or they always do something that causes them to remain single while all of their friends go through women like toilet paper. These guys are hurting and need help, they just can’t figure out what is wrong on their own.

There is nothing wrong with being that guy as long as you’re willing to learn. Not everyone has this shit come naturally to them, and in fact most guys don’t. So this thread is designed to help guys undertand generally how dating works.

I see this type of post all of the time from people who have this come naturally to them, at least to a point where dating isn’t an issue. This thread is not for guys like that. You won’t get it, and neither do you need to be condescending or arrogant about it.

There are a lot of guys out there who have no idea what they are doing. They always end up "the friend", they always get rejected, or they always do something that causes them to remain single while all of their friends go through women like toilet paper. These guys are hurting and need help, they just can’t figure out what is wrong on their own.

There is nothing wrong with being that guy as long as you’re willing to learn. Not everyone has this shit come naturally to them, and in fact most guys don’t. So this thread is designed to help guys undertand generally how dating works.

you want to learn guitar? you practice/play it.

you want to have more successful dates? you need to practice.

I can tell you, and in great detail, to do a task. But I guarantee the 100th time performing the task will be more successful than the first.

see what I’m saying? So put yourself out there, regardless if it comes natural or not.

you want to learn guitar? you practice/play it.

you want to have more successful dates? you need to practice.

I can tell you, and in great detail, to do a task. But I guarantee the 100th time performing the task will be more successful than the first.

see what I’m saying? So put yourself out there, regardless if it comes natural or not.

Do you think for one second that this post of yours is somehow disputing my thread? Of course it takes practice. What do you think I was encouraging throughout that entire article?

The thing is, if someone is clueless about girls, you cannot solve their issues by saying, "Hey, get out and practice! Bye!" A whole lot of people are going to need a much more precise and detailed explaination on how to improve themselves.
hooray for more of the spanish fly, confidence garbage jargon.

Since you brought it up.

1. As an English Major

This should be, "English major."

2. "As an English Major, it…"

This is semantically incorrect. The adjective phrase preceding a sentence modifies the subject of that sentence. You mean to say, "As an English major, I…"

"As an English Major, it…" tells the reader that "it" is an English major.

3. "it’s important to me to recognize" is awkward. "I find it important to recognize…" is preferable.

4. "a person with good ideas and a passion to write about it"

This is the most egregious error in the sentence. What part of the sentence does "it" refer to here? Think about that for a moment.

5. "to effectively get" splits an infinitive when there are palatable alternatives.

I was posting an informal response on a message board; not a final paper.

I wrote the thoughts that were in my head. I didn’t read over my response, check it, or revise it.

Even if I checked it 100 times, I still probably would have made a mistake. I am an English major, not an English teacher. I do not claim to know all of the rules in grammar. I didn’t pick apart his post and criticize every single part. I was simply getting the message across that in a formal post, more caution should be made to deliver the point in the best possible way.

Had I been typing a formal post like his, I would have been more careful and put some thought into my post. But I’m sure every single informal post you make would be ready to be published in a book without any editing.

I bet you feel pretty cool right now though .

, what exactly do you disagree with? Please ellaborate.

Socrates, I’ve been on these forums for some time with the Dating Advice. My cred has already been established. Besides, the stuff speaks for itself. Challenge the point not the poster.

Would you take dating advice from a 400-pound pimple-faced 17 year old? I browse these forums fairly frequently and have never even seen your name. The typical person reading your post is in the same situation.

I don’t need to challenge the point; it’s all good stuff. The only problem is that none of it’s original and I can find the same ideas that aren’t written at a 4th grade level on a thousand other sites.

thanks dd… long time no see. i remember your posts from way back, before you disappeared.

"deep seeded" should be "deep-seated," btw.

Just quit, man.

It would be unbareable to hang out with you. You’re that guy who sits in class and corrects the teacher every time she misspells a word on the board, then high fives everyone around you.

I have no idea whether or not your knowledge of English is better than mine. What I do know is that I don’t attempt to use what I do know to show off, and I don’t freak out of I’m not 100% correct all the time.

My favorite thing about you is, despite what I have written to you in this post, you can’t stop thinking about how bad you want to tell me it’s "unbearable."

Would you take dating advice from a 400-pound pimple-faced 17 year old? I browse these forums fairly frequently and have never even seen your name. The typical person reading your post is in the same situation.

I don’t need to challenge the point; it’s all good stuff. The only problem is that none of it’s original and I can find the same ideas that aren’t written at a 4th grade level on a thousand other sites.

Check out his post history (the threads he’s started). He had one here a while back about his wife or fiance or girlfriend or something which had vids.

Not only was she fucking hot as hell, but she was a damned good singer too.
The trolling is getting stupid.

I like this little manual, yeah a sticky in vag would be good for it.

I have a preference for keeping things simple though. All that’s usually needed on the subject is along the lines of ‘Be yourself.’
If it works, you’ll know and feel it.
Don’t try to change, overall relationships are about happiness and you’ll never find it being someone else.
oh and don’t fart in bed until a couple of weeks into it out of courtesy, then blow all you want and if they’re serious and worth the effort they’ll deal with it.

One thing though, "What attracts women?" might be better said "What attracts women worth your time"

That’s really not a terrific example because it doesn’t really tell you how to learn to play the instrument. Okay, so someone got me a guitar for Christmas because they heard me say I’ve always wanted to learn it. Now what? Do I need lessons from an instructor? Do I need to read an instructional book? Watch an instructional video? Hammer away at the thing with no rhyme or reason everyday until I start to discern how different actions produce different sounds?

Any one of these approaches works differently for different people. So, when people ask how to learn guitar, to be helpful it’s good to give a broad overview of the different approaches people take and how effective they are in general. Not to just go "obviously, you practice it!"

Would you take dating advice from a 400-pound pimple-faced 17 year old? I browse these forums fairly frequently and have never even seen your name. The typical person reading your post is in the same situation.

I don’t need to challenge the point; it’s all good stuff. The only problem is that none of it’s original and I can find the same ideas that aren’t written at a 4th grade level on a thousand other sites.

If that 400-pound pimple faced 17 year old knew what they were talking about then I would be stupid to ignore their advice simply for being a 400 pound pimple faced 17 year old.

I don’t post everyday, but I have a solid post history in the Asylum. A simple search could show you that.

Mystery is good. Very good about breaking down the approach and helping you understand how to send signals of High Value.

I don’t think Mystery goes too much into the actual relationship part or about guiding you to the right relationship but I don’t know if there is anything better when it comes to getting a relationship.

Competence, to me, IS a character trait.

And clothes and fashion don’t amount to a hill of shit. It’s not important. yeah, as JJJ said, it HELPS, but someone who needs a post like this to score women has far more important shit to worry about than the way they dress.

Competence is a moralistic judgment.

If I jump out of a plane, when I go to pull the rip cord, would I rather be confident, or competent?

Having the ability to do something is not moralistic, it’s the capacity to perform an action. That is what competence is.

Levels of "competence" are moralistic judgments upon sets of actions. it is not so easy to define "doing something".

There are literally a million ways you could pull that rip cord, in a million different situations. Some schools of thought feel you need to count to 10 and pull, others say to sing to 20. In the end, it is your personal choice which set of values to believe in and which to follow, a set of judgments that meet your unique needs.

Other then arguing about this, lets agree with the fact that as long as it gets pulled in time, we land and do not die. Ok?
Yeah, Jesus Christ, talk about going overboard on a moot point.

Hey, my three "C’s" are just a little guide. No need to pick them apart and try to make them into something more or less.
Still, you are wrong. Competence is a subjective claim, based on ones beliefs. No dictionary definition is going to change that, unless they change the meaning of the words.

One mans competence is another mans failure. I can lead this all night – what is "the minimum standard?"

And we start swirling down the toilet again.
I’ve always more associated the word competence with the ability to perform. I’m glad the dictionary got itself out though, nothing like an education.
Everyone’s interested in being right, people are raised that way. Good guys and bad guys are defined by who is right and who is wrong from day one. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be right.

Yes we can find this kind of logic anywhere, but more often than not when we need logic the most it escapes us. There’s a big market of Dr.Phil out there so why not state the obvious and have it readily accessible to a couple of guys on OT are probably going to find it valuable. It isn’t bad advice, it’s a nice chicken-wire frame of tidbits to get them hyped and maybe instill a little confidence. He isn’t claiming a high-horse of authority, just putting his two cents out there.

Still, you are wrong. Competence is a subjective claim, based on ones beliefs. No dictionary definition is going to change that, unless they change the meaning of the words.

One mans competence is another mans failure. I can lead this all night – what is "the minimum standard?"

And we start swirling down the toilet again.

the minimum standard is not something that has to be universal. competence is a scoped concept.

bring this to on topic and i’ll win this argument for metallic blue.

edit: this post has been self-censored at the last minute, for gratuitous and trollish content.
A lot of this self-help material is pretty insipid.

Take Viper’s 3 c’s.

What happened there was Viper thought to himself, "Hm, I can put these three vague concepts into a box together. Yeah. Look at that box there. I must have done something productive. Shit they even start with the same letter."

In Viper’s case, you get to see someone’s love of analyzing, of categorizing, and of identifying shit. The final step is to put a label on it, preferably one that alliterates, and you’ve succeeded!

In contrast, there’s this distinct way that good self-help material sounds to me. For one thing it uses specifics. It discusses concrete tools. It declares rules of thumb rather than universal laws. It doesn’t seek The Truth – it seeks results.

Basically, every sentence is something that can actually be put into practice.

That’s what I think is great about the mystery method. I prefer other methods for personal aesthetic reasons, but the mystery method has the wonderful benefit of being literally entirely 100% usable.

You’d think that wouldn’t be such a high standard, right? That something simply can be used?

But somehow, inexplicably, you get shit like "be confident."

Confidence, Charisma, and Character. The three C’s that get you any woman you want.

Go use that.

It’s like … "all a woman needs to get just about any man she desires, is 1. SEX APPEAL – do your makeup proper, ladies!!! and 2. EXTRAVERSION – no hiding in the corner, now."

I call this magical duo …………… SEXTRAVERSION.

There. I’ve done something productive.

Anyways yeah that’s how it sounds to me.

How long have you been doing MM metallic blue??

Just quit, man.

It would be unbareable to hang out with you. You’re that guy who sits in class and corrects the teacher every time she misspells a word on the board, then high fives everyone around you.

I have no idea whether or not your knowledge of English is better than mine. What I do know is that I don’t attempt to use what I do know to show off, and I don’t freak out of I’m not 100% correct all the time.

My favorite thing about you is, despite what I have written to you in this post, you can’t stop thinking about how bad you want to tell me it’s "unbearable."

wow… i was just correcting the mistakes man. why is everyone so sensitive about their intelligence on this fucking forum. i thought you were cool but instead of saying, "die, you pedantic bastard!! " we get a little hissy fit. jesus.
Ladybug, you’re right in that I am not claiming to be on a High Horse of Authority. There are higher authorities out there, but neither am I just offering my measley two cents. I’ve been studying and working the Dating Scene for 7 years and I’d say I understand a great deal more than most.

A couple of my friends do the Mystery Method, and each of them have revolved their entire lives around it. They ended up taking it beyond just getting better with social skills, being aware of what signals they send, and being able to influence attraction, they made it their entire lives. They lost sight of the entire point, to find a strong relationship and now they are judging the entirity of their lives by how successful they can get at meeting girls. If that’s what they want, good for them, but it seems so much less then what their original goal was.

Confidence, Charisma, and Character. The three C’s that get you any woman you want.
Go use that.

:words:

I call this magical duo …………… SEXTRAVERSION.

That about sums it up.
From now on I’m going to be Sextraverted! a.k.a Histrionic.

What can I say? I was embarrassed .
haha, i was all "hey, i remember reading this already", then i looked at the post date.

overall, i agree with the article. however, just like with any goal, you have to suck it up and do what’s necessary to achieve that goal. you can’t half-ass it and expect results, or even worse, expect things to just happen on their own.
Very nice guide. I rate it a 9/10. Excellent work, keep it up!

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.