Really need love, havn’t even come close.

Hi there OT. I’m not one to post on a forum for advice, but the diversification of users here could really help me.

Basically, my problem is..I need a girl. I’m 19 years old, and I’ve never had a girlfriend. Basically, I’ve turned down every girl who has asked me out, and I’ve never asked a girl out. During high school, I wanted to avoid all relationships, simply because I hated drama. Now that I’m 19, and out of school, I simply need what I’ve been missing out on my whole life.

I never really thought about this until a few weeks ago, when I finally lost my virginity. Basically, my roommates girl brought over her friend, we danced, and dancing led to sex. I slept with her, cuddled with her for the whole night and shit, and it was fucking amazing. After doing that for the first time, it REALLY got to me that I need a significant other in my life. I did want to try with her, but apparently some rich guy got to her already, so whatever. I need to get a girl, and fast. I need help accomplishing this.

I think the main reasons that I may not be able to find a girl fast would be:

1. I’m not very attractive. Maybe my personality doesn’t appeal to others? Check out my myspace profile and throw some tips.

2. I don’t really know where to look. My job is just me and my co-workers, all almost all married. Nobody else comes in, so I can’t find any there. I’ve got a car, and I live in a fairly large city in the beautiful metro phoenix east valley of Arizona. So many places to go, but which is the fastest?

Now, I know you all probably think I’m an idiot for being so ignorant about this at 19, but ignore that please and help me out. I’d really appreciate this!

Thanks OT!

EDIT: Here’s a quick pic of me that I just took:

id suggest joining a gym or some sort of club/group etc.
or if you could even try online dating if you really wanted
i tried online dating

i went to the my 45 site for my area and messaged a shit load of girls with no avail..lol

and other sites cost money fuck that..if there was a free one which produced good results…sure

as for a gym..no thanks..not much for gyms

but club/group..what kind? i’ve got plenty of time on my hands in the evenings (after 5) and all day on weekends
gyms are great man, you always are in a better mood after you work out and you get a chance to meet other people. who knows, maybe that other person could introduce you to a girl. or you might just be able to help show a girl how to start the treatmill and then it could lead to more.

search for a meetup group in your area; talk to other people, go out for a sports league; adult education classes, et.c
Do you have any hobbies? cars? art? photography? sports? Gym is not your thing…ok..

What I learned is, be happy with yourslef bro, your love will come. I know it sound cheesy and cliche, but that is because it is SO TRUE.

I was like you, 17-20 I was preoccupied with my car, art, photography, traveling, etc. Thought relationships were BS and didn’t bother. Now at 22 I’m still a virgin but in a few months I am hoping to move out, start my career and work out, bike and have fun… Way more on my plate now than girls…Remember live YOUR life!
Join a gym, like mentioned. Talk to your co-workers. Just because they are older and married doesn’t mean they don’t have female neighbors, daughters, friends’ daughters, neices, etc. around your age. As cheesy as it sounds, find a nightclub that has an under 21 night. I know everyone always says not to go looking for relationships in bars, but you never know. Plus, you’re young. I don’t think you’re out looking for your wife at the age of 19. Girls like to get dressed up and go dancing with their girlfriends. Not everyone there is a club whore looking for her next piece of ass.

As for your looks, I can honestly say you’re not unattractive. not necessarily my type, but I’m starting to think no one ever is lol.. You should have no problem pulling the ladies as long as you appear confident and let your awesome personality shine through.

gyms are great man, you always are in a better mood after you work out and you get a chance to meet other people. who knows, maybe that other person could introduce you to a girl. or you might just be able to help show a girl how to start the treatmill and then it could lead to more.

search for a meetup group in your area; talk to other people, go out for a sports league; adult education classes, et.c

I dislike working out and athletics. That’s why I wouldn’t do that. I want to be myself, not try to be somebody who I’m not.

Do you have any hobbies? cars? art? photography? sports? Gym is not your thing…ok..

What I learned is, be happy with yourslef bro, your love will come. I know it sound cheesy and cliche, but that is because it is SO TRUE.

I was like you, 17-20 I was preoccupied with my car, art, photography, traveling, etc. Thought relationships were BS and didn’t bother. Now at 22 I’m still a virgin but in a few months I am hoping to move out, start my career and work out, bike and have fun… Way more on my plate now than girls…Remember live YOUR life!

I love singing, music, tv, movies, internet, camping…

Join a gym, like mentioned. Talk to your co-workers. Just because they are older and married doesn’t mean they don’t have female neighbors, daughters, friends’ daughters, neices, etc. around your age. As cheesy as it sounds, find a nightclub that has an under 21 night. I know everyone always says not to go looking for relationships in bars, but you never know. Plus, you’re young. I don’t think you’re out looking for your wife at the age of 19. Girls like to get dressed up and go dancing with their girlfriends. Not everyone there is a club whore looking for her next piece of ass.

As for your looks, I can honestly say you’re not unattractive. not necessarily my type, but I’m starting to think no one ever is lol.. You should have no problem pulling the ladies as long as you appear confident and let your awesome personality shine through.

I’ve already talked to them, and partied with them and their friends. So far, no luck. As for the night club, I’d do that..but that’s a little cheesy for me. I might be a little shy for that approach though..lol.

Hey I am in Phoenix. One thing you should do is find a friend and cruise Mill ave on a Friday… There are so many girls its retarded..

As for the whole disliking working out and trying to be somone who you arent? Thats bs. Working out gives you not only more energy, but as you notice your strength increasing as well as body defining, it’s very fullfilling. I am 6’2 170 and have been working out for a year. I am by no means trying to get huge or be what im not. I was in the same position you were and didnt care. Working out gave me ALOT more confidence.
Yeah working out doesn’t necessarily = broly. A few years back I actually met a guy who I was on and off with for quite some time at the gym. You’d be surprised..

Listen to this guy. You sound like a good guy, so what you deserve will eventually come around… probably when you least expect it. But until then, focus on you (whatever that may mean to you.. ie. you want to learn a new language? join a class. you want to get a promotion at your job? work at it and get it! etc) Not only will you obviously benefit, but those types of things attract girls. Don’t put your life on hold to find a girlfriend, you’ll be backpedaling.

As an example, I’m 22… no real girlfriends, couple flings here and there that lead to nothing ’cause I wasn’t interested. Don’t commit to something that’s not the way you want it to be. Don’t settle. Like you a couple girls asked ME out and I turned it down cause I know the type of girl I want. The few I have asked out turned ME down. It’s all about going after what you want. There’s no magical way to find a girlfriend.

Listen to this guy. You sound like a good guy, so what you deserve will eventually come around… probably when you least expect it. But until then, focus on you (whatever that may mean to you.. ie. you want to learn a new language? join a class. you want to get a promotion at your job? work at it and get it! etc) Not only will you obviously benefit, but those types of things attract girls. Don’t put your life on hold to find a girlfriend, you’ll be backpedaling.

As an example, I’m 22… no real girlfriends, couple flings here and there that lead to nothing ’cause I wasn’t interested. Don’t commit to something that’s not the way you want it to be. Don’t settle. Like you a couple girls asked ME out and I turned it down cause I know the type of girl I want. The few I have asked out turned ME down. It’s all about going after what you want. There’s no magical way to find a girlfriend.

I don’t really have anything else to go after now. I’m living day by day, with nothing to really look forward to until supporting myself to work the next day.

My job doesn’t have promotions for any time soon. I’m not holding myself back for a girl, I just want to devote more time to finding one. Alot of girls tell me a problem I have is that I’m too nice. I’m actually being serious.

I just want to find a girl, and fast. I’ve got plenty of free time, and I want to use some of that to bring love in my life. Without it for so long, it’s been hurting.

I wish the online dating hype worked for me. I messaged like 40 girls on mydatingplacephx.com and no avail.

I don’t really know what activities there are that I’m actually interested in, that would also bring girls. Any ideas besides the night club?

But as of now, I don’t think love is coming. Not expected. Not unexpected. Basically, my life is pretty linear. Not much change day by day. Go to work, meet the same people everyday. Nobody new, nothing new. Get home..do pretty much nothing..(at least I have alot of free time though.)

I need to fill that gap.

Hey I am in Phoenix. One thing you should do is find a friend and cruise Mill ave on a Friday… There are so many girls its retarded..

As for the whole disliking working out and trying to be somone who you arent? Thats bs. Working out gives you not only more energy, but as you notice your strength increasing as well as body defining, it’s very fullfilling. I am 6’2 170 and have been working out for a year. I am by no means trying to get huge or be what im not. I was in the same position you were and didnt care. Working out gave me ALOT more confidence.

Also, I’d like to note..working out didn’t help me very much. I worked out a SHIT load in basic training, and AIT. It didn’t help my confidence very much. Plus, if we’re talking about confidence based from how I look, I would consider my face more of a problem than my body.
You need to love yourself before you attempt to love anyone else. Do something to bring your confidence up.
I’m actually a decently confident person. I don’t walk around like a fucking pimp, but I like myself.

Ever walk down the street and see a ugly or fat guy with a girl and ask yourself "How did he get her? WTF?"…. Confidence

You arent going to have much luck until you lose those "im ugly" thoughts you have. You dont have to be an arrogant bastard to have confidence either. When you are confident people can just tell whether you are spittin game to a girl or asking somone for directions. It’s something that radiates from a person.

Go sit in the ASU library and watch people. There are alot of girls in there!

Ever walk down the street and see a ugly or fat guy with a girl and ask yourself "How did he get her? WTF?"…. Confidence

You arent going to have much luck until you lose those "im ugly" thoughts you have. You dont have to be an arrogant bastard to have confidence either. When you are confident people can just tell whether you are spittin game to a girl or asking somone for directions. It’s something that radiates from a person.

Go sit in the ASU library and watch people. There are alot of girls in there!

I don’t know how to "game". I have NO idea how to spark a conversation up with a random girl, especially in a library.

It’s worth a shot though, these tips are MUCH appreciated!
Also, I personally do not think I am that unattractive. In fact, when I look at myself in the mirror, I don’t see why people tell me the opposite. I think I’m a decent looking guy, but constantly girls and guys alike tell me the opposite.

I’m sure it can.

Basically, my problem is..I need a girl. I’m 19 years old, and I’ve never had a girlfriend.

That’s not a problem, I assure you. Regardless of what others might tell you (especially class mates or friends), it’s not unusual at your age.

Basically, I’ve turned down every girl who has asked me out, and I’ve never asked a girl out.

Why did you turn down the girls who asked you out?

During high school, I wanted to avoid all relationships, simply because I hated drama. Now that I’m 19, and out of school, I simply need what I’ve been missing out on my whole life.

So you avoided relationships because you felt that every single girl you met would be overly dramatic and lead to problems?

I never really thought about this until a few weeks ago, when I finally lost my virginity. Basically, my roommates girl brought over her friend, we danced, and dancing led to sex. I slept with her, cuddled with her for the whole night and shit, and it was fucking amazing. After doing that for the first time, it REALLY got to me that I need a significant other in my life. I did want to try with her, but apparently some rich guy got to her already, so whatever. I need to get a girl, and fast. I need help accomplishing this.

I do hope you wore protection. I’m dead serious, if you haven’t, you better from now on. And don’t tell me "Well she’s on the pill or some other winded excuse" — never, and I mean "never" sleep with a girl without using protection until you’re in a long term committed relationship and prepared for the consequence of having children. And no, pulling out is not "protection. Additionally, the fact that you latched onto the first girl who gave you sex is a sign you are inexperienced with women. This is fine, we all begin somewhere. I recommend you read Mystery Method. I would also recommend not treating women like they’re objects or dramatic attention whores. Many women are quite incredibly nice and great to be friends with as well as lovers. If you are attracting drama whores, it is not they that is the problem — this goes for anyone. It is "you" who would be the problem if you were constantly attracting that type of woman.

I think the main reasons that I may not be able to find a girl fast would be:

1. I’m not very attractive. Maybe my personality doesn’t appeal to others? Check out my myspace profile and throw some tips.

There is nothing wrong with your appearance. Second, you don’t "need" a girl. Let’s be very clear on that. Sure you may want to date, and that’s fine but you don’t "need" it — so let’s start by changing the way you word things. You’d like to date someone, fair enough?

2. I don’t really know where to look. My job is just me and my co-workers, all almost all married. Nobody else comes in, so I can’t find any there. I’ve got a car, and I live in a fairly large city in the beautiful metro phoenix east valley of Arizona. So many places to go, but which is the fastest?

Reading the MM will solve this problem. Women are everywhere, the issue is you’re looking for women in a location that you can pull off the long drawn out method you think you need in order to get to know here. This is unnecessary. PM me for the link to the MM. Download it, read it, learn it, love it, and live it. But don’t ever mistreat or disrespect women.

Now, I know you all probably think I’m an idiot for being so ignorant about this at 19, but ignore that please and help me out. I’d really appreciate this!

No I don’t think you’re an idiot. You think you’re an idiot apparently, but that will change if you follow these instructions and this advice I’m giving you.

Attracting women isn’t about your appearance. It plays a role and so you will learn some tools for altering and enhancing your appearance, but your appearance is a very small part of what brings women into your life.

First of all you have to have a life worth bringing them into. Are you happy with who you are? Do you know who you are? What are your goals? Are you striving to become a certain type of person? What are your character qualities? What are your weak points in your personality? What are you passionate about?

Let’s get going. At 19, you won’t understand everything, but you’ll get most of it in order to help change your outlet and the way you interact socially with women. It’s really going to change how you interact with everyone in-fact. You’ll see the world differently by the time we’re done.

i tried online dating

i went to the my 45 site for my area and messaged a shit load of girls with no avail..lol

and other sites cost money fuck that..if there was a free one which produced good results…sure

as for a gym..no thanks..not much for gyms

but club/group..what kind? i’ve got plenty of time on my hands in the evenings (after 5) and all day on weekends

Online dating is a waste of time. That’s my personal opinion. I have a lot of reasons why I think that. Some people are successful at it, but I think most people use it as a crutch for fear of approaching people face to face. I recommend you avoid using the internet to "try" to connect with women. You may meet someone accidentally, which is fine, but as far as where you actually work to meet people, I recommend personal contact.

The biggest reason is it saves you time. Time is precious. You can always make more money, find new friends, or a new job, but you can never buy more time when time runs out.

So saving time is important. Meeting a girl online can take weeks, if not months to court her, and even if you do convince her to meet you, once you meet face to face, you have to start all over again and still court her and get her to invest herself in you.

I do hope you exercise minimally for health purposes. Minimal exercise, such as walking for 20-30 minutes per day, or riding a bike, swimming, whatever increases heart rate and blood pressure temporarily. This increases the flow of nutrition to parts of the body which speeds healing, decreases waste build up, improved oxygen saturation. In laymens terms, you become smarter, stronger, and actually feel "better" — you function at peak performance. Did you know studies show that those who exercise moderately each week for 3 days actually show increased IQ’s relative to sedentary people? This is nothing new, studies have been done demonstrating this fact.

So I do hope you realize that women aren’t going to appreciate someone who doesn’t take their health seriously.

Alright, fair enough. We have some activities. However, how many of those can you actually do while engaging anyone in person? Camping, that’s it. That’s the only one. When you’re singing, you’re not communicating with anyone, unless you’re singing with them or to them. Music — ok, you can listen to music, but are you communicating and talking to a woman while doing it? Nope. TV? Nope. Movies, nope, internet, nope.

It’s important to get involved in activities where you can also communicate while doing them. If you like dining out at restaurants, or playing video games, or playing pool or teaching someone how to bowl. There are many things you can do while engaging another person.

You can take a drive together, go to a museum, a planetarium, the zoo, feed some ducks, even sit on the couch and talk without interruption.

Night clubs can be enjoyable places if they also have places where you can actually share a dialog. It’s one of the fastest places to meet people, because you can work the room and introduce yourself to a lot of people in a short period of time. Your "shy" issue will have to be defeated to accomplish the goal you’re aiming for. If you’re willing then it will work. If you’re not willing you will fail.

This is a major problem. Answer my questions above about passions, goals, ambitions. Without them, you will not likely find a good woman to date. You will find someone just as apathetic as you are.

My job doesn’t have promotions for any time soon. I’m not holding myself back for a girl, I just want to devote more time to finding one. Alot of girls tell me a problem I have is that I’m too nice. I’m actually being serious.

This problem will be solved with the tools I’m suggesting, especially the MM. Getting the "nice" out of "nice guy" will take a little work, but there is no reason for you to be excessively nice.

I just want to find a girl, and fast.

If that’s what you want, you will fail.

I’ve got plenty of free time, and I want to use some of that to bring love in my life. Without it for so long, it’s been hurting.

Needing a woman will inevitably end in failure. You will not get the desired result if you rush or if you convince yourself that you "need" it.

I wish the online dating hype worked for me. I messaged like 40 girls on mydatingplacephx.com and no avail.

I’m glad it didn’t work for you. You have an opportunity now to learn how to overcome your fear, to make something of yourself, and to actually cultivate a sincere passion for living beyond your dead end job.

I don’t really know what activities there are that I’m actually interested in, that would also bring girls. Any ideas besides the night club?

I have many more, but I’m not listing them yet. I’ve only given you a few basic ones, but they aren’t necessarily places to meet women. If you attempt to meet a woman now given your level of competence (Level of skill socially) you will find yourself a very unhappy fellow.

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But as of now, I don’t think love is coming. Not expected. Not unexpected. Basically, my life is pretty linear. Not much change day by day. Go to work, meet the same people everyday. Nobody new, nothing new. Get home..do pretty much nothing..(at least I have alot of free time though.)

If you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you always got. It’s time to make some decisions. Do you want to make some changes, or continue on the same track?

I need to fill that gap.

What you need first is to find out who you are and who you want to be. With those questions answered, the rest will be systematic.

I don’t want you to work out to build your confidence. You can’t build confidence just by changing your exterior. It will be a superficial facade of confidence, not actual skill or competence, nor character inside.

Your face is fine. It’s what’s behind the face that needs work. Working on your mind, changing the way you deal with people, and deal with yourself, is what must happen.

If you exercise your body, your mental health and mental function increases. If your mental health and mind is more functional, you can use it to learn things faster and more efficiently, thus making this process easier. I don’t expect you to lift weights if you don’t want to. I suggest you do "some" in order to make your mind and body stronger, but minimally I do expect you’ll exercise your most basic body system by walking or something equivalent.

Tell me what areas of your life you think you are very skilled in, what do you do very well? What do you like about yourself, what are you strengths?

I don’t know how to "game". I have NO idea how to spark a conversation up with a random girl, especially in a library.

It’s worth a shot though, these tips are MUCH appreciated!

You will by the time this thread is finished.

Everyone has an opinion about appearances. You can enhance your appearance further. In my opinion you have a fair base to work off of. With the social skills and a good quality of life in which you’re pleased, your appearance will be more than adequate to accomplish meeting attractive good women.
Also, I’m sure you’ll just pass over this post completely because everyone wants what they don’t have. But honestly, at 19 I would say to focus your thoughts elsewhere than a girlfriend. It’s perfectly understandable to crave a woman in general, but you don’t need a girlfriend. You could push yourself to go out more, or try new places to try and meet women and work on your skills.

By skills of course I mean picking up women. Not like a jerky PUA like you might imagine; you can be yourself and still perfect your technique and meet lots of women. This is good because you not only get to discover all sorts of women, but also figure out what it takes to seem interesting and what makes girls tick.

When I was young my older sister and relatives told me to not obsess so much over having and keeping a bf and I never listened to them. Later in life I don’t necessarily "regret" always being in long term relationships when I was younger, but do wish I had listened to them and jus had more casual relationships. When I did start having casual relationships (college) that was when I learned the most about men in general and it was wonderful.
Why did you turn down the girls who asked you out?

I saw all the drama that everybody else had to deal with daily with relationships, and felt that I would be included as well. I didn’t want to deal with that feeling of losing somebody, and I still don’t. I never don’t. I know it WILL happen, though.

I do hope you wore protection. I’m dead serious, if you haven’t, you better from now on. And don’t tell me "Well she’s on the pill or some other winded excuse" — never, and I mean "never" sleep with a girl without using protection until you’re in a long term committed relationship and prepared for the consequence of having children. And no, pulling out is not "protection. Additionally, the fact that you latched onto the first girl who gave you sex is a sign you are inexperienced with women. This is fine, we all begin somewhere. I recommend you read Mystery Method. I would also recommend not treating women like they’re objects or dramatic attention whores. Many women are quite incredibly nice and great to be friends with as well as lovers. If you are attracting drama whores, it is not they that is the problem — this goes for anyone. It is "you" who would be the problem if you were constantly attracting that type of woman.

I wasn’t attracting drama whores. Theres nothing to say that the girls who asked me out were or weren’t drama whores. I just didn’t care for girls that much. In fact, I probably had the least amount of drama out of my classmates. Also..I didn’t wear protection. She was on the pill, and told me it was guaranteed. I still pulled out. Bad choice? I agree.

There is nothing wrong with your appearance. Second, you don’t "need" a girl. Let’s be very clear on that. Sure you may want to date, and that’s fine but you don’t "need" it — so let’s start by changing the way you word things. You’d like to date someone, fair enough?

You’re right. I don’t "need" a girl. But, I strongly desire one.

First of all you have to have a life worth bringing them into. Are you happy with who you are? Do you know who you are? What are your goals? Are you striving to become a certain type of person? What are your character qualities? What are your weak points in your personality? What are you passionate about?

I’m very happy with who I am. I know my goals in life. I want to start my own business in the future. I’ve been independently studying this for a long time now. That’s my passion in life.

I’m very laid-back, easy-going, chill, but hyper at times..I’m the guy girls always run to for relationship advice because I’m always a huge help..but I never can help myself. I’m funny, goofy at times, love to sing and express myself. I’m a little too outspoken at times though. I’m not a very "broly" or "manly" guy. I don’t watch sports. Instead, I play guitar, and sing. I’m the guy who would rather work something out via talking..rather than shedding blood. Need any other info? I’m happy to provide any other info.

I do hope you exercise minimally for health purposes. Minimal exercise, such as walking for 20-30 minutes per day, or riding a bike, swimming, whatever increases heart rate and blood pressure temporarily. This increases the flow of nutrition to parts of the body which speeds healing, decreases waste build up, improved oxygen saturation. In laymens terms, you become smarter, stronger, and actually feel "better" — you function at peak performance. Did you know studies show that those who exercise moderately each week for 3 days actually show increased IQ’s relative to sedentary people? This is nothing new, studies have been done demonstrating this fact.

I am a very smart person, with a pretty high IQ. I don’t work-out, but I do run at the treadmill here at my apartment complex a few times a week.

Alright, fair enough. We have some activities. However, how many of those can you actually do while engaging anyone in person? Camping, that’s it. That’s the only one. When you’re singing, you’re not communicating with anyone, unless you’re singing with them or to them. Music — ok, you can listen to music, but are you communicating and talking to a woman while doing it? Nope. TV? Nope. Movies, nope, internet, nope.

It’s important to get involved in activities where you can also communicate while doing them. If you like dining out at restaurants, or playing video games, or playing pool or teaching someone how to bowl. There are many things you can do while engaging another person.

You can take a drive together, go to a museum, a planetarium, the zoo, feed some ducks, even sit on the couch and talk without interruption.

I LOVE DOING ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES! I love doing almost EVERYTHING. I am VERY outgoing. I was just naming a few.

Night clubs can be enjoyable places if they also have places where you can actually share a dialog. It’s one of the fastest places to meet people, because you can work the room and introduce yourself to a lot of people in a short period of time. Your "shy" issue will have to be defeated to accomplish the goal you’re aiming for. If you’re willing then it will work. If you’re not willing you will fail.

I KNOW I would absolutely LOVE the nightclub scene. I don’t have many friends to go with though, since I just moved out here. I’m not 21, therefore can’t drink, so I sure as hell am not going myself. (BTW, Give me a few beers and I guarantee I’ll give you more confidence than ever. :P)

SHIT okay first page answered..is there a shortcut to quoting like you did? My shits probably all messed up. Now to page 2 replies….

I’m a VERY smart person that did NOT apply myself in high school, therefore failing. I got HUGE into smoking pot, which was a mistake. I LOVE singing, especially in a choir. I’ve won several choir awards, including state-wide ones. I love computers and the internet. I love playing guitar, but I’m FAR from skill. I’ve got POTENTIAL, but not skill. I don’t play enough. Also, I love BUSINESS. I strive to become an entrepreneur in life, or at least c-level.

Note, I look MUCH better in pictures for some reason. I need to get surgery on my right eye, which is hard to see in pictures unless I hold my eyes open VERY wide. Basically, when I was young, I got hit by a baseball that was popped very high by my coach. It made my right eye, smaller, sorta like half chinese 😛 Anyway, basically ever since I got hit by that ball, I never liked sports again. Anyway, theres just a fun fact…but I do realize that appearance isn’t everything.

Also, I’m sure you’ll just pass over this post completely because everyone wants what they don’t have. But honestly, at 19 I would say to focus your thoughts elsewhere than a girlfriend. It’s perfectly understandable to crave a woman in general, but you don’t need a girlfriend. You could push yourself to go out more, or try new places to try and meet women and work on your skills.

By skills of course I mean picking up women. Not like a jerky PUA like you might imagine; you can be yourself and still perfect your technique and meet lots of women. This is good because you not only get to discover all sorts of women, but also figure out what it takes to seem interesting and what makes girls tick.

When I was young my older sister and relatives told me to not obsess so much over having and keeping a bf and I never listened to them. Later in life I don’t necessarily "regret" always being in long term relationships when I was younger, but do wish I had listened to them and jus had more casual relationships. When I did start having casual relationships (college) that was when I learned the most about men in general and it was wonderful.

I don’t want anything casual. Period. I understand where you’re coming from, but I am not the type of person that would jump into something if I didn’t have that "special feeling" that I would enjoy a family with this person. I know it’s far-fetched, and something you won’t see eye-to-eye with me with, but it’s who I am. I’m a serious person.

Unfortunatley the assumption you made prevented you from actually gaining experience in that area. It was irrational to assume just because others acted that way in their relationships that you would also have to face that same challenge.

Now, putting the assumption aside, I suspect you’re right though, that it probably would have happened given your skill level. You likely would have tolerated behavior you shouldn’t have and would have allowed people to step on you and violate your bondaries.

As an example, I was dating a girl not to long ago, here was what happened.

Me: I’m not feeling very well today, I’m not going out tonight.
Her: Why not, you’re always complaining about not feeling good. Maybe if you got out once in awhile that would change.
Me: I’m going to stay home.
Her: Fine, do whatever you want, I don’t care (With a nasty condescending attitude)
Me: I feel uncomfortable when you don’t respect my needs.
Her: Well if you weren’t such a baby and always sick we wouldn’t have this problem.
Me: I don’t tolerate people talking to me like this, I feel it’s disrespectful, so don’t call me again.
Her: Fine, fuck you.
Me: *click*

Notice how I handled the issue with the girl quite calmly. I know who I am. I have a chronic illness. If others can’t accept that or disrespect me, they will be removed from my life. It doesn’t upset me. I wouldn’t need enemies if I kept friends like that. I don’t tolerate drama that involves stepping over my boundaries in regards to respect. If I’m disrespected, I’ll voice it.

In the future I suggest you also voice how you feel without blaming others. If they can’t accept it, you know what is in your best interest.

I wasn’t attracting drama whores.

I didn’t say you were. I was explaining the background context.

Theres nothing to say that the girls who asked me out were or weren’t drama whores. I just didn’t care for girls that much. In fact, I probably had the least amount of drama out of my classmates. Also..I didn’t wear protection. She was on the pill, and told me it was guaranteed. I still pulled out. Bad choice? I agree.

Never trust someone else to have your best interest in mind when it involves your health. Even your doctor. You should always work in a "partnership" with anyone concerning your health. This includes sex. Always wear a condom, even if she says she’s on birth control.

People lie, people cheat, people forget, people will hurt you, and I assure you, if you don’t protect yourself eventually you will regret it. Don’t do it again chief.

You’re right. I don’t "need" a girl. But, I strongly desire one.

Excellent, that works.

I’m very happy with who I am. I know my goals in life. I want to start my own business in the future. I’ve been independently studying this for a long time now. That’s my passion in life.

Great, so each day you’re working on this goals, is that correct? How can you go about bringing someone into your world and connecting your passion to them? How can you motivate and get someone interested in what you have to say about it?

I’m very laid-back, easy-going, chill, but hyper at times..I’m the guy girls always run to for relationship advice because I’m always a huge help..but I never can help myself.

This last part about advice is critical to pay attention to. Everything else you’ve said, fantastic, you’re laid back, easy going etc — great, cool. Now listen to me closely: Do not "ever" give a female advice about her problems if you’re at all interested in her in any remote context as a girlfriend. I’m talking even if you "might" like her, even if the slimmest glimmer of interest is there — do not give advice. You can listen, you can ask questions, but do not give advice nor answers. You are not her therapist, that’s her therapists job. Understand me? This tip alone is priceless and will be very helpful.

Next on the agenda. From this point forward you will always put yourself first. You will always make sure you’re needs are taken care of before you reach out to give. You can’t give what you don’t have, so always start from within. Respect yourself, love yourself, be kind to yourself, listen to yourself. Always take care of your body, your possessions, your responsibilities.

This includes even the people you love. You come first. I know the world has spent 19 years telling you it’s the other way around, but listen, that isn’t true. If you focus on others, you lose yourself in them and you will lose your ability to influence and change your life. You must always be principle centered but not "self centered in a selfish" context. The way you treat yourself first will be a reflection of how you respond to others. When your needs are met you will be much stronger in your ability to give to others.

I’m funny, goofy at times, love to sing and express myself. I’m a little too outspoken at times though. I’m not a very "broly" or "manly" guy. I don’t watch sports. Instead, I play guitar, and sing. I’m the guy who would rather work something out via talking..rather than shedding blood. Need any other info? I’m happy to provide any other info.

You sound a lot like me. In-fact you are very similar to me when I was 19. I sing, write music, poetry, — but I also lifted weights and was active in sports. I didn’t "like" sports, but I did them to expose myself to social activities and to challenge myself.

This part about fighting is a very good topic. One of the most important things to do if you’re presented with a choice to defend yourself or diplomatically work the situation out, is to first be kind, empathize with your opponent for a moment. If they’re in a rage and seeing red, and you’re forced to defend yourself, attack them extremely hard and fast. Disable them, no more, no less.

If they are still rational before the fight begins, ask what they want, if there is a way to give it to them without sacrificing your own needs. If they want something that you can’t afford to give and they’re willing to take it at any cost, warn them in advance that the consequence will be unpleasant, and that you’ll be forced to do whatever is necessary.

In martial arts they teach these tools. Bruce lee called it "The art of fighting without fighting." Use your mind to reconcile conflicts, but never reconcile a conflict out of fear, by surrendering that which you can not surrender.

I am a very smart person, with a pretty high IQ. I don’t work-out, but I do run at the treadmill here at my apartment complex a few times a week.

Good, that’s all that I would ask. Try to fit in 20 mins daily of walking somewhere or being active doing something — not necessarily working out, but to keep your circulation healthy.

I LOVE DOING ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES! I love doing almost EVERYTHING. I am VERY outgoing. I was just naming a few.

Ok great, then that will give you a very good base to work off of.

I KNOW I would absolutely LOVE the nightclub scene. I don’t have many friends to go with though, since I just moved out here. I’m not 21, therefore can’t drink, so I sure as hell am not going myself. (BTW, Give me a few beers and I guarantee I’ll give you more confidence than ever. :P)

Actually when we’re done, I will recommend you do in-fact go alone. It’s necessary. In-fact it will be necessary that you do a lot of activities we discuss alone, everything from seeing a movie, to shooting pool, to dining out. I’ll get to that more later.

SHIT okay first page answered..is there a shortcut to quoting like you did? My shits probably all messed up. Now to page 2 replies….

Yes, type [quote ] at the beginning of something I’ve said, and then at the end of what I said type [/quote ]

Notice the space between the brackets. Remove the space when you post.
you dont need someone to love you, its nice but you dont need it

in your current state of mind youre going to find a girl and then validate yourself through her and her acceptance and love and thats never going to end up working out, trust me, i know

I do hope you’ve grown tired of behaving that way and are now ready to do the opposite.

I got HUGE into smoking pot, which was a mistake.

I agree, and now it’s in the past. I suggest avoiding recreational drugs, smoking and drinking unreasonably. It’s fine to drink socially, but if you get so intoxicated that you have trouble walking, then that’s not bright.

I LOVE singing, especially in a choir. I’ve won several choir awards, including state-wide ones. I love computers and the internet. I love playing guitar, but I’m FAR from skill. I’ve got POTENTIAL, but not skill. I don’t play enough. Also, I love BUSINESS. I strive to become an entrepreneur in life, or at least c-level.

If you wish to excel in business, I suggest you also run parallel and study the stock markets. You’ll find that the key to success in trading and investing is knowing how to run a business. If you know how a business works, you’ll know it’s potential and capacity, therefore you’ll know it’s future to a high probability. If you know it’s potential to a high probability, guess what? You have a very good idea where the stock will go.

Consider doing that at some time, I think you’ll find it’s nearly identical to what you’re trying to accomplish, and this will serve you in building equity and strengthening your larger goal.

Your appearance individually won’t be a problem. So you can let that concern go. It’s nonessential in the overall picture.
Have you noticed how much effort women put into their hygiene and appearance? Your appearance is fine, but I can’t tell how much effort you put into your hygiene. Most women will notice when you do.

As for shyness and confidence, oh lord I did I ever have trouble with that stuff a year ago :S
The chump test is to go to a mall and say Hi to every woman you see. If they stop and have a conversation with you, great. If all you get is a ‘Hi…bye" who cares?
The thing you need to learn is that if a woman rejects you (used loosely here as all you’re doing is saying hi) you dont become a worse person. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
There’s a million articles on this but one i like is;

its short and uses a good analogy.

I recommend not getting attached to anyone particular person you meet during the learning process. You have no idea what the right person for you even is like, and you haven’t experienced the ability to choose either. Now you’re going to learn how to essentially acquire options.

You do not have to sleep with, or get into an exclusive relationship with anyone, but you will have no choice but to get to know people. You can not jump from not knowing someone to "special feeling" without the process that exists inbetween.

It’s fine to be serious, but you can’t take yourself too seriously, because frankly you have no idea what you’re instore for if you do this work. You won’t come out thinking the same way. You’ll have a broader view of your options, of your ability to communicate, and you’ll be far less "sensitive" about the judgment of the world or any particular person.

You understand?

After you read the book, then review and study it and begin actively putting it to work by practicing the material in the real time field. You can take the advice given in the thread as well. Then it’s you who will tell us what’s going on.

This will be almost all you, you’re the one doing the work. If you do, you’ll succeed, if you don’t, you won’t. Best wishes, and if there is any questions or anything else you want to talk about here, feel free to ask.

And remember, the bottom line isn’t about women. The bottom line is building lifelong skills in communicating and networking with people. You will learn to be consistent, disciplined, and it will serve you in accomplishing goals entirely unrelated and unforeseeable into the future. You’ll be blown away by how many positive things change that you never even thought of as a result of doing this project.
I just finished the book. I learned a lot, however this mainly uses examples at a bar/nightclub. Not something I’d have much fun at not being 21. I’m not a big fan of a lot of the values in this book..such as getting a girl that already has a bf…or going for a girl with another guy there..or most of all..playing it like a "game". I’m not looking to make several attempts on several girls…

You read nearly 200 pages in about 2 hours? You’re reading rate is as fast as mine! Now the question is whether you retained it, if not keep reviewing it. The core concepts you should have no problem using, such as practicing opening, understanding the stages of intimacy and comfort building.

None of this requires trickery, you can be sincere in your practice. The material is merely a tool, much like a gun. Use it to rob banks or use it to protect and serve — the choice is yours.

Clearly you don’t take parts that go against your values. If I’m not mistaken he doesn’t say that someone should do it (Steal girlfriends/cheat etc), he simply says these tools allow you to do it if you chose to. It’s an example of how strong the tools are.

There is a great deal in that book that you can apply anywhere. Not just in bars or clubs. If you can see that, then I think things are going to go well and I suggest you get to work. If you can’t, then we’re at the end of our discussion.

Remember, if you do what you’ve always done, you get what you always got.

If this material doesn’t work for you then you’ll need to figure out the process through another source or on your own.

Start at the beginning by learning how to open. Remember opening is simple. All you do is engage. Example:

You: Hello, do you know the time?
Her: Oh sure, it’s 12:30.
You: Thank you.

Then you "eject" and end there.

It’s that simple. That’s an opening. Think up your own as you go. Practice will inevitably lead to originality and sincere conversation once you understand the dynamics and mechanics of how communication moves (body language, words, various patterns of action).
By place I meant a specific place to go. Like, what would you think would be the BEST place to girl to meet girls, given my scenario? What would you do?

Here are what I use:

Bookstores
Grocery stores
Pool Halls
Co-ed Sports Team (playing or watching)
School Clubs
Cafes
The Mall (Browsing in stores)
Walking (Walk somewhere that people are)
The Gym
Performing (I bring my guitar outside to areas of town and perform for my own enjoyment. People walk by me usually, some listening etc)
Meetup.Com (Lot’s of groups to connect up with people)
Clubs/Bars/Pubs
School (In class or on campus/library)
Charity activities (Soup kitchen, Red Cross/Goodwill)
Church (They have activities for young people — youth groups, I was in one)
Yoga Classes
Women’s fashion stores
Skating Rink
Parties
Through Friends
Beach
Mini Golf
Choir Group
Free local activities (Check local advocate/paper)
At work (Customers)
Random places (Using a laptop)
Restaurants
Painting/Drawing — go somewhere that people are, and draw the scene or paint it

I can go on and on. It’s not so much the place that matters, it’s you that matters. It’s your behavior, your appearance that gets attention first. Obviously activities in which people aren’t in one location makes it very hard, such as if a person is walking past you to get somewhere else. You can still make it work, just work the skills in the book.

Alright. As long as you don’t finally get into a LTR and bitch years later that you never just dated around or had fun.

Here are what I use:

Bookstores
Grocery stores
Pool Halls
Co-ed Sports Team (playing or watching)
School Clubs
Cafes
The Mall (Browsing in stores)
Walking (Walk somewhere that people are)
The Gym
Performing (I bring my guitar outside to areas of town and perform for my own enjoyment. People walk by me usually, some listening etc)
Meetup.Com (Lot’s of groups to connect up with people)
Clubs/Bars/Pubs
School (In class or on campus/library)
Charity activities (Soup kitchen, Red Cross/Goodwill)
Church (They have activities for young people — youth groups, I was in one)
Yoga Classes
Women’s fashion stores
Skating Rink
Parties
Through Friends
Beach
Mini Golf
Choir Group
Free local activities (Check local advocate/paper)
At work (Customers)
Random places (Using a laptop)
Restaurants
Painting/Drawing — go somewhere that people are, and draw the scene or paint it

I can go on and on. It’s not so much the place that matters, it’s you that matters. It’s your behavior, your appearance that gets attention first. Obviously activities in which people aren’t in one location makes it very hard, such as if a person is walking past you to get somewhere else. You can still make it work, just work the skills in the book.

Great list, just what I needed. Choir group sounds awesome, but I doubt I’ll find that..haha i miss school. I love mini-golf!

If you want more ideas of where to meet people, search online for "Where to meet new people?" — search engines have information on this. Other people here may also add to the list. The most important thing isn’t "where" but rather how you approach them.

Keep me updated on which skills you master, and which stages you experience. A1, A2, etc, C1 …..

whats A1, A2, C1 etc ?

There are three stages defined by the Mystery Method.

(Attraction)
A1 – Open
A2 – Female To Male Attraction
A3 – Male to Femal Attraction

(Comfort)
C1 – Conversation
C2 – Connection
C3 – Intimacy

Then there should be seduction

S1 – Foreplay
S2 – LMR(Last Minute Resistance)
S3 – Sex
WHAT UP THO!

Just checking in. New situation. Ever since about the last post here, rather than doing the bar thing I was just trying with this one girl I work with. Unfortunately a few weeks ago I got rejected, but it wasn’t bad. She was 23 and I’m 20. She wanted somebody at least 21+, and said "ask me again in 11 months". Shit happens. no prob

BUT, now I want to get specific help with this new girl I’m trying with. I’m usually REALLY good at understanding people, but with this girl, I’m totally confused. I’ll explain as good as I can.

Basically, I work with her and we’ve just been like small friends till recently we’ve been hangin out more. Monday she asked me to take her to the mall and she told me she had a great time yada yada…tuesday her ride’s car broke down and i went so far to save them…she appreciated it and took me to lunch the next day but brought the guy I believe may be my competition (but he don’t like her, and they both know it). Had pizza. Decent day.

Then the next day her ride’s car broke down yet again, lol. I went and saved them again and she said she’d buy me lunch, just us this time. So I took her yesterday.

Sounds like shes probably interested right?

Ha, well now here’s a list of shitty things:

-She told me she’s not really looking for a relationship, just to "have fun" ..lots of sex. Shitty. Although, if I can at least fuck her, i’ll be happy.

-Sometimes she texts me but most of the time I start the convos..and we don’t talk much during the day. (Despite the fact we work together, on the same exact shifts..lol.)

-she always says shit to me like "keep your head up" and "you’ll find somebody". I’m gonna guess that’s the ultimate shitty, lol.

I can’t decode her. But I did do probably one of the dumbest things ever though that might have ruined any chance I had lol.

I took her to lunch today at work and when we got back, another female co-worker and her were talking and the other chick pointed at me, and then the girl i want kinda made a face like "no way" so I got pissed as fuck. (Note: I normally am not like this, but I have been quitting smoking the past 3 days, which has been very harsh and affected my mood a LOT)

SO anyway after I seen her do that, I texted her and got pissed. (stupid me!)

To really express the shittyness, heres the exact text I sent with response!

Me: "Hope you liked it. I know it was more expensive than I thought, so I owe you. Great look at Tracy btw, sorry, and don’t ask. But have a good day"

Her (2 hours later..): "dude you helped me and my girl out so don’t even trip i had a good time thank you"

UGH SHITTY

how can i save myself, it seems like any chance I had is fading. Ok I’m stoned as fuck and tired of writing.

THANKS for reading
The mystery method is for tards.

Get the Omega Male program by Doctor Paul. Its custom tailored for every personality type of men using real science (it works in all situations for all men all the time). You can attract women with just your energy and presence alone, not bullshit pickup lines/bullet point canned routines.

Be a real man, not a joker with a funny hat and a bunch of cult buzzwords.

And sir dead pixel, you are in better shape than you think.

You just need to learn how to grow the masculine skills that you missed out on in high school. Not just with women, but in all areas.

This cannot be done by becoming a pickup artist. It needs to be done with psychological skills that you can develop here:

There’s some free stuff on there too.

Teaches you how to be a sexy gentleman that women SWOON over and really easy to learn.

Cult ripoff buzzwords that have no scientific backing whatsoever.

WHAT UP THO!

Just checking in. New situation. Ever since about the last post here, rather than doing the bar thing I was just trying with this one girl I work with. Unfortunately a few weeks ago I got rejected, but it wasn’t bad. She was 23 and I’m 20. She wanted somebody at least 21+, and said "ask me again in 11 months". Shit happens. no prob

That’s a reasonable excuse, assuming we’re stupid enough to believe her. She just wants someone to drive her to the bars so she has an eternal designated driver. Think about it, there is only 11 months between you, and 95% of your time together is likely not going to be spent at bars. Do the math.

BUT, now I want to get specific help with this new girl I’m trying with. I’m usually REALLY good at understanding people, but with this girl, I’m totally confused. I’ll explain as good as I can.

Red Flag: Women who "confuse" men, for any reason at all, are red flagged. It usually means they aren’t interested.

Basically, I work with her and we’ve just been like small friends till recently we’ve been hangin out more. Monday she asked me to take her to the mall and she told me she had a great time yada yada…tuesday her ride’s car broke down and i went so far to save them…she appreciated it and took me to lunch the next day but brought the guy I believe may be my competition (but he don’t like her, and they both know it). Had pizza. Decent day.

I’m noticing a trend here. She’s not interested. She’s got you in the "nice guy" grip.

Then the next day her ride’s car broke down yet again, lol. I went and saved them again and she said she’d buy me lunch, just us this time. So I took her yesterday.

She’s using you. And the fact that she mentioned "Just us this time" is her way of patting you on the head for being a good boy. She knows you’re interested, and she’ll milk it for everything she can.

Sounds like shes probably interested right?

Unfortunately, not.

Ha, well now here’s a list of shitty things:

-She told me she’s not really looking for a relationship, just to "have fun" ..lots of sex. Shitty. Although, if I can at least fuck her, i’ll be happy.

She’s not going to fuck you. She "is" looking for a relationship, just not with you.

-Sometimes she texts me but most of the time I start the convos..and we don’t talk much during the day. (Despite the fact we work together, on the same exact shifts..lol.)

This is textbook: She’s not interested. Women who are interested tend to come to you, not the other way around — once you’ve established communication.

-she always says shit to me like "keep your head up" and "you’ll find somebody". I’m gonna guess that’s the ultimate shitty, lol.

Owned. The ultimate red flag. She’s thinking "He’s a nice guy."

I can’t decode her. But I did do probably one of the dumbest things ever though that might have ruined any chance I had lol.

I’m sure you did a lot of dumb things. You’ve decoded her now. Her actions speak louder than any words possibly can.

I took her to lunch today at work and when we got back, another female co-worker and her were talking and the other chick pointed at me, and then the girl i want kinda made a face like "no way" so I got pissed as fuck. (Note: I normally am not like this, but I have been quitting smoking the past 3 days, which has been very harsh and affected my mood a LOT)

Why are you justifying your feelings. You have a right to be pissed off. I don’t think I’d go off the deep end, but I’d be upset. However, I probably never would have gotten to this point to begin with since I know what to look for when a woman is and isn’t interested.

SO anyway after I seen her do that, I texted her and got pissed. (stupid me!)

To really express the shittyness, heres the exact text I sent with response!

Me: "Hope you liked it. I know it was more expensive than I thought, so I owe you. Great look at Tracy btw, sorry, and don’t ask. But have a good day"

Passive aggressive, nice — when you go down in flames you really like to steer the plane into the biggest objects while you’re at it too! Seriously, don’t "ever" respond to a girl who isn’t interested with comments like this. It’s one thing to be angry or frustrated, and another to guilt them, or get passive aggressive.

Her (2 hours later..): "dude you helped me and my girl out so don’t even trip i had a good time thank you"

She’s a cunt.

UGH SHITTY

how can i save myself, it seems like any chance I had is fading. Ok I’m stoned as fuck and tired of writing.

There is no chance of salvaging this relationship. It had nothing to do with your text message. The signals were much earlier when she began giving you little tid bits of "hope" knowing she could depend on you if she wanted or needed something. Is is a technique some women us. They make a guy "think" he has a chance if he’s already interested — and they can tell almost immediately when a "nice guy" is interested, so they milk him, and get what they can before he realizes he’s been played.

THANKS for reading

Thanks for writing, I’m sorry about the end result.
In regards to your appearance, you aren’t bad looking at all. But remember that a big part of your appearance involves hygiene and clothing.

That’s a reasonable excuse, assuming we’re stupid enough to believe her. She just wants someone to drive her to the bars so she has an eternal designated driver. Think about it, there is only 11 months between you, and 95% of your time together is likely not going to be spent at bars. Do the math.

Red Flag: Women who "confuse" men, for any reason at all, are red flagged. It usually means they aren’t interested.

I’m noticing a trend here. She’s not interested. She’s got you in the "nice guy" grip.

She’s using you. And the fact that she mentioned "Just us this time" is her way of patting you on the head for being a good boy. She knows you’re interested, and she’ll milk it for everything she can.

Unfortunately, not.

She’s not going to fuck you. She "is" looking for a relationship, just not with you.

This is textbook: She’s not interested. Women who are interested tend to come to you, not the other way around — once you’ve established communication.

Owned. The ultimate red flag. She’s thinking "He’s a nice guy."

I’m sure you did a lot of dumb things. You’ve decoded her now. Her actions speak louder than any words possibly can.

Why are you justifying your feelings. You have a right to be pissed off. I don’t think I’d go off the deep end, but I’d be upset. However, I probably never would have gotten to this point to begin with since I know what to look for when a woman is and isn’t interested.

Passive aggressive, nice — when you go down in flames you really like to steer the plane into the biggest objects while you’re at it too! Seriously, don’t "ever" respond to a girl who isn’t interested with comments like this. It’s one thing to be angry or frustrated, and another to guilt them, or get passive aggressive.

She’s a cunt.

There is no chance of salvaging this relationship. It had nothing to do with your text message. The signals were much earlier when she began giving you little tid bits of "hope" knowing she could depend on you if she wanted or needed something. Is is a technique some women us. They make a guy "think" he has a chance if he’s already interested — and they can tell almost immediately when a "nice guy" is interested, so they milk him, and get what they can before he realizes he’s been played.

Thanks for writing, I’m sorry about the end result.

Haha alright then. I’ll move on.

Next!

The mystery method is for tards.

You just need to learn how to grow the masculine skills that you missed out on in high school. Not just with women, but in all areas.

Agree, stay away from stuff like mystery method and a1,a2 and a3 and stuff.

If you want to learn more on dating, read stuff from David DeAngelo and Carlos Xuma and they will teach you how to get women without techniques and without looking like this:

Read more, start doing the things you enjoy and you will become more intresting. Develop the right attitudes with the help from the names above and you won’t need techniques, negs and c3.

Mystery is doing a great thing and he can get women without any doubt, but wouldn’t it be greater to attract women without corny, canned lines?

Oh, I’ve been doing that my whole life. And, it hasn’t.
You go to the asu library yet man? There are always soo many hotties chillin and studying
You have to approach. I think you are just so used to girls approaching you, you are just expecting it now. That is certainly not normal. The man should approach the woman. It might not be comfortable at first, but it’s necessary. Anywhere you go you can meet women, believe me. You just have to actively pursue it.

Agree, stay away from stuff like mystery method and a1,a2 and a3 and stuff.

If you want to learn more on dating, read stuff from David DeAngelo and Carlos Xuma and they will teach you how to get women without techniques and without looking like this:

Read more, start doing the things you enjoy and you will become more intresting. Develop the right attitudes with the help from the names above and you won’t need techniques, negs and c3.

Mystery is doing a great thing and he can get women without any doubt, but wouldn’t it be greater to attract women without corny, canned lines?

Mystery has said that he dresses like that because that is the type of women he is trying to attract. He wants the girls that are into rockstars, so he dresses crazy like that to fulfill thier fantasy and be thier rockstar.

If that isn’t the type of girl you are interested in you don’t have to dress like that. But his techniques still work the same.

On the flip side you can get the best education by reading the materials of all the doctors and applying the methods and techniques that work for you and fit your personality.

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