Aftermath of getting my ass kicked…

2 weeks ago i got my ass kicked, i dont remember shit because i was black out drunk…according to my friend b4 i got my ass handed to me, this female he’s seeing swung on me, i pushed him into her, she fell and got stitches…her medical bills wound up being $1600.

my friend calls me today asking if i can help her out with her medical bills…

i take responsibility being the drunken asshole that night but mind you, i was trying to fight someone else, and she, her sisters b/f and my friend were trying to hold me back, she had no business being any where near me, (i have no sympathy for stupid bitches who try to get in the middle of fights between men and get knocked the fuck out, its Darwinism) and somewhere in the mists of this, she gets mad at me for not calming down then trys to punch me…

the next morning i was still drunk, felt bad and offered to pay, she said she didnt want my money, now the bill shows up and she wants my money, and now i’ve sobered up and after hearing the story a few times, and knowing her character, i dont feel i should have to pay for shit. im not going after her sisters b/f who sucker punched me, for my medical bills.

thoughts/comments?
Comments? Sure. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Sounds like you shouldn’t be drinking in public if you get black out.
she could take you to small claims but from what you’ve said, I doubt she’ll get all of it. she knowingly put herself in danger for no reason AND you previously offered her the sum.

that issue has already been dealt with and resolved, lets focus on the present issue at hand of this bitch wanting me to pay her fucking medical bills, thanks.
Thoughts? Yeah….posts like this make me very thankful that I’m not going out to bars every night, caught up in all this drama. There’s more to life man…

Yes, you should pay her bills… you sound like a great guy.

eh…you sound like a pussy.

what kind of retarded generalization is that? yeah i go to bars every night, and dont do anything else with my life other than that…fuck out of here, you need a life if thats how you actually think.

Ok.

Edit: So do you want to fight about it or something? Oh wait…

Reading comprehension FTW.

I was talking about me, not you.

Look stay in school and stay out of the bars. Oh and you might want to learn to fight and drink so you don’t keep repeating these patterns.
where did the party happen? if it was at her house then her parents homeowner insurance could cover it
wait wait this whore swung on you? GOD NO YOU MAKE HER SUE

but id never pay anyones medical bills unless they sue me
You already offered to pay her medical bills. Don’t puss out now
do not listen to the nice guys. you gain nothing by paying the bills

if shes making you pay, then shes not worth hanging out with anyway.

her insurance or the homeowner (of where this happened)’s insurance should cover it

Reading comprehension FTW.

I was talking about me, not you.

Look stay in school and stay out of the bars. Oh and you might want to learn to fight and drink so you don’t keep repeating these patterns.

yes reading comprehension, you should take it for a spin, even if you were talking about yourself, it was still a retarded generalization. and i have 2 fucking degrees, and had a lucrative job, until the writers strike, thanks.

and learning to fight while black out drunk would probably make me send more people to the hospital so how does that solve the problem DUMB FUCK!?

outside of a bar…with insurance she still owes $1600. and thanks for sticking to the issue.

the issue is simple

1) if she wants cash to pay for it, shes not your friend.
2) she swung on you; got whats coming to her

the solutions even easier. Dont pay shit. she will have to file a small w. small claims and even then shed have to prove you did it and that her hands were clean. you just would say that she was drunk and swung on you and you did what you could to defend yourself.

shes not going to all of the sudden be your friend because you pay for it either…. shes still going to hate you. that part wont ever change.

Ok.

Edit: So do you want to fight about it or something? Oh wait…

*yawn* wow that failed….

the issue is simple

1) if she wants cash to pay for it, shes not your friend.
2) she swung on you; got whats coming to her

the solutions even easier. Dont pay shit. she will have to file a small w. small claims and even then shed have to prove you did it and that her hands were clean. you just would say that she was drunk and swung on you and you did what you could to defend yourself.

shes not going to all of the sudden be your friend because you pay for it either…. shes still going to hate you. that part wont ever change.

shes not even my friend, she’s just some ghetto ass chick my friend is dating. On principle i dont want to pay this shit, but im probably gonna lose my best friend over this….

yes reading comprehension, you should take it for a spin, even if you were talking about yourself, it was still a retarded generalization. and i have 2 fucking degrees, and had a lucrative job, until the writers strike, thanks.

and learning to fight while black out drunk would probably make me send more people to the hospital so how does that solve the problem DUMB FUCK!?

do I get banned for using this in the main forum e-thug.txt

yes reading comprehension, you should take it for a spin, even if you were talking about yourself, it was still a retarded generalization. and i have 2 fucking degrees, and had a lucrative job, until the writers strike, thanks.

and learning to fight while black out drunk would probably make me send more people to the hospital so how does that solve the problem DUMB FUCK!?

God, you’re crabby. Do you want advice or do you want someone who only tells you what you want to hear? You need a sandwich or a nap or hug- something…

doo eeettt
let me just give my unsolicited opinion that you sound like you need a serious reality check/attitude adjustment and I’m surprised getting your ass kicked didn’t do it.

However…I would not pay her. She put herself in that situation and if she wants to seek legal venues to get her money she can try.
Save me from editing all these posts and keep it clean, calling eachother pussy,dumbfuck and what not is stuff for the main forum, serious discussions k, tnx.

Wrong. Unless there is more to the story, she would get every dime. Ive sat in on cases where someone was blatently instigating a fight, but never threw a punch. The other guy did. The other guy ended up in jail and paying all the bills. It doesnt matter that she put herself in danger, it matters that he made the swing and he turned things physical. He was the one out of line, and she would win EASILY.

She could also go to the local prosecuters office and sign an affidavit that you hit her, and you would be arrested and charged. Especially if there are witnesses. Id pay the bill before she realizes she can do this.
I’d tell her to go fuck herself (sorry for the swear word) and ignore it. If she takes you to court and wins, fine.. give it to her.
Unless going to court would cost you a ton of money

then.. give her some cash and be done with it

sorry, i wont curse in this forum again.

Wrong. Unless there is more to the story, she would get every dime. Ive sat in on cases where someone was blatently instigating a fight, but never threw a punch. The other guy did. The other guy ended up in jail and paying all the bills. It doesnt matter that she put herself in danger, it matters that he made the swing and he turned things physical. He was the one out of line, and she would win EASILY.

She could also go to the local prosecuters office and sign an affidavit that you hit her, and you would be arrested and charged. Especially if there are witnesses. Id pay the bill before she realizes she can do this.

thanks for the insight, but she tried to punch me first, she made things physical, now whats the law on that?

eh…whatever doesnt kill me only makes me crazier…but in all seriousness im currently checking into anger management classes, getting a shrink, etc.

i admit i have a problem.
Don’t give her shit, if she takes you to Court countersue her ass for punching you.

Its so worth the risk though
Were there any witnesses besides your friends? If your friends were telling someone the story in court would they be siding with you or her as far as what happened? Did the police get involved or was there any kind of report filed? If there was no police report and it was just a bunch of people fighting outside and she went to the hospital on her own then I don’t know how much she could really do. Worst case scenario is she could take you to small claims court and then you’d have to pay her anyway I wouldn’t just give her the money without a fight though.

he’ll prolly dump her eventually and then will be glad you didnt pay her… you guys will laugh about it in a few months

friends are good enough for witnesses.
go meet her and give her some insurance applications and say nice day

If she really did get in the way then she needs to deal with it. It’s a nice gesture but girls do need to realize (even some guys) that sometimes getting in the middle of shit like that causes more problems than just the 2 guys going at it.

You need to stop drinking all together though, like yesterday. Because if this does go to small claims court it will help you out a lot if you can honestly say that you have not drank since that night because you realized what it did to you. If you get a judge that has a problem with alcoholics he may be easier on you (granted there is enough evidence even to get money from you) if he knows it was a one time thing.

dont do this, avoid all contact with her for a while.

I know. I was just making a point that maybe she should get health insurance so she doesn’t have these outrageous bills.

eh…whatever doesnt kill me only makes me crazier…but in all seriousness im currently checking into anger management classes, getting a shrink, etc.

i admit i have a problem.

I’m glad to hear you’re trying to improve yourself. We have have faults…it’s when we don’t realize we have them and try to work with them or around them that they can really hurt us and the people around us.

Good luck!

He said she has insurance.

Either that was what she paid to meet her deductible, she has like a 60/40, 80/20 or something like that plan. Or her plan could just not cover ER services at all…I dunno. She could just be flat out lying about the amount too…who knows?

I had a supppper bad migraine a few weeks ago and went in and got a pain shot and that’s it. I was there about 1 1/2 hours from the time I walked in the door to the time I walked out. I expect the bill will be about $600-800. I have a high deductible plan with an HSA.

I go to a sepcial migraine clinic and usually see 3 people while I’m there: an MD, a NP, and a PT. The total time I’m there is around an hour and it’s usually about $400. Health care is expensive…especially specialized health care.
a few stiches = $1600? actually more assuming her health insurance covered part of it

Seems unlikely…but if he refuses to pay and she trys to get him in court he’ll find out.
actually 1600 is pretty reasonable for stitches and medical bills…. ER is going to be at least 500 dollar no matter what….. pending what drugs (if she got an IV) and how many doctors saw her (prolly just 1) the bill could easily be that

that could include an ambulence.

just her friends and my friend and they willl all side with her.

I played soccer a bit over a year ago and cracked my knee open after being tripped. My trip to the ER, 9 stitches on my left knee, and an x-ray cost like $2200. I had no say in the matter, the trainer wanted me to have it done as we were on a turf field and risk of infection was high.

And if all your friends, and her friends are going to side with her, I feel there is more to the story then you’re saying. So next time when you’re blackout and pushing around girls, after you hurt them bring them to the Urgent Care, as it’s less expensive than the ER.

my friend’s going to side with her because he’s a simp like you, and her friends met me for all of 3-4 hours, they’ve known her for years.

and let me explain this girls character:

she’s 6ft 2 inches, 34, single mother of 2 kids, ex gangbanger, "claims" to have beaten up 2 men, always trying to fight somebody, she stole a girls cell phone that night, and when confronted about it gave it back and said next time shes going to keep it because she’s ghetto and black. she then threatened to beat up the girls friend who saw her steal for being a "snitch."

her friends who are of the same ilk, were on her side in that matter.

my first reaction when my friend said we were meeting up with them, was to say take me home, i didnt.

so any more lame snide remarks?
34 year old? wow.

just stay the fuck away from that gruop of losers.

eh…whatever doesnt kill me only makes me crazier…but in all seriousness im currently checking into anger management classes, getting a shrink, etc.

i admit i have a problem.

This is good to hear and I apologize for my previous comments.

There was a reason behind my posts…..to help illuminate an issue that I saw as glaringly obvious which is: You have anger issues. You are obviously aware of them and are working to correct them….that is all I was trying to accomplish.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that they help you deal with any anger issues you might have.

Now to answer your question directly….I would say that part of your issues have to do with the company you keep. In other words, it might cost you a friendship but are these really good friends in the first place? Perhaps it’s time to find friends that are more healthy to hang with??

I don’t know because I don’t know all the details nor do I know the people involved. however, if this kind of behavior has been an on going pattern, perhaps it would be wise to find other friends.

IMO that determination overrides whether or not you should pay for the med bills. If I were in your shoes, I’d consider that first….then let that decision drive whether or not to pay be med bills…along with the question, can you afford to pay them?

Good luck and God Bless.
cootie. . . .analyze the situation not the person! lol.

meh…more fun to analyze the person and there’s more to work with.

my friend’s going to side with her because he’s a simp like you, and her friends met me for all of 3-4 hours, they’ve known her for years.

and let me explain this girls character:

she’s 6ft 2 inches, 34, single mother of 2 kids, ex gangbanger, "claims" to have beaten up 2 men, always trying to fight somebody, she stole a girls cell phone that night, and when confronted about it gave it back and said next time shes going to keep it because she’s ghetto and black. she then threatened to beat up the girls friend who saw her steal for being a "snitch."

her friends who are of the same ilk, were on her side in that matter.

my first reaction when my friend said we were meeting up with them, was to say take me home, i didnt.

so any more lame snide remarks?

Yeah I wouldn’t think about paying her back then. Just don’t hang out with them again and wait for things to blow over. If you lose a friend then oh well. What kind of person would date a chick like that anyway? And can you really see a girl like that going to small claims court? I doubt she even has the brains to figure out how to do something like that. Just watch your back and hope they don’t come try to kick your ass later.

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