Does Anyone Else Feel The Changes To OT’s Main?

I rarely use the main forum anymore. I spend the majority of my time here getting guidance and hopefully giving something back. Now with the changes taking place and OT becomming less about us, and more about business, I feel threatened. I feel like we could be next, you know? We’re a tight group ourselves, what if "we" lose access here too?

Our lives would probably go on I guess, some might pay the nominal fee but I was wondering if anyone else felt the "chill." I know a lot of people in need would be left out in the cold.

I do not think they’ll touch other forums. That would be a stupid move.
Members who often posted in Main as their primary forum on OT will no longer come here for support or to give support. A lot of people are leaving on principle alone, that worries me.
I don’t see any changes because I pay for a sub. To me, it’s a good deal but I know a lot of people don’t agree. By good deal I mean dollar per hour of entertainment.

Most of the people bitching think nothing of dropping close to $20 bucks at the movie theater for a 2-3 hour movie for them and their girl….not including snacks yet they’ll bitch about a yearly fee that’s pretty close.

They’ll also spend more time on OT than the movie so IMO it’s a good entertainment deal….but every year I’ll reevaluate it.

There are plenty of other free forums but I don’t know visit any other, serious discussion forums like The Asylum or Road to Recovery. I don’t even know if another one exists like this….I’m sure they do but I just haven’t bothered to look.
I don’t know if this was randomly decided upon, or if it was talked about for a long time. Did anyone on here know in advance? Were opinions sought out before the change was made? Or did people incur the same as I did: (Logging in, and not being able to access threads)? I think it would have been good had they gotten a feel for what we thought before they made any changes. Now I believe they’re going to lose a lot of members, and a lot of potential business customers. A lot of people will stay to support the forum, but I don’t think forcing members to pay-to-view is the best method to earning money for the site. I think it would have been better if they asked for donations or support. Most people won’t pay for what they can get for free somewhere else.

No, it was talked about for a while and he didn’t care what people thought.

Gotcha. I think I missed all discussion of it. ::embarrassed::
The thing is that I don’t think most people would mind paying 10 bucks for a lifetime sub like SA but fuck the price they are charging is the highest on the internet.

I’m still here.

I don’t post much, though. Usually skim threads to remind myself that my problems aren’t really that bad and that people are dealing with a lot worse, and that I can get through my stuff.
I was pissed at first but I can understand that this place isn’t cheap to run.

I think the unfortunate thing is that Fazle explicitly said it’s not about money – unless he enjoys throwing money down the drain then it obviously is, and there’s nothing wrong with that. OT is not a hcarity.
I’ve posted the concerns of you people in the moderator corner, and I am going to give you guys some feedback info in a sticky as soon as it comes available.
This is a good example of this whole sense of entitlement thing that I’ve been noticing more and more lately. You don’t deserve to post here for free, Fazle is providing a service — and he’s decided that the service should pay for itself. I don’t see the problem.

You could call him uncharitable, I guess, but it’s not like any of us really need OT, so none of us really have room to complain about not getting a free handout.

This is a good example of this whole sense of entitlement thing that I’ve been noticing more and more lately. You don’t deserve to post here for free, Fazle is providing a service — and he’s decided that the service should pay for itself. I don’t see the problem.

You could call him uncharitable, I guess, but it’s not like any of us really need OT, so none of us really have room to complain about not getting a free handout.

i think you’re wrong about people not deserving to post here, because without the people there wouldn’t be a forum. the people made the forum just as much as fazle made it.

however, i don’t mind the main forum is locked, it doesn’t bother me.
Well, I found us a safe place if things do go south. I really love OT, I’ve had my up’s and down’s with debilitating health problems over the years, and you guys kept me sane — well sort of — and even when I took a vacation away to work on those health issues, nobody here in Asylum was disrespectful in the least about the decision so I’ve set us up, just in case. I’ll hear back shortly about the news.

Support groups are free around the world, and internet and so should our group. We might donate by passing a basket at best. So if we’re forced to pay, I’m toeing the line, and everyone can e-mail me for the new location where Asylum can be setup. I will only give it out however if we’re informed that we’ll be actually losing access to The Asylum.

I understand the rest of the site might require charging to keep running or to handle various things, and that’s fine I’d possibly pay for that, but not Aslyum, that’s unacceptable if that were to happen.
hadnt used the main much til rencently… but its better now.. i like it
ever since 05/06, I been surfing the main forum less and less. Like it doesnt even matter if I post there anymore. Its just gotten. Well. Gay
I dont know if "we’ll be next" but I have noticed that in the subforums I visit, there have been alot of new posters w/o subs. I guess b/c they cant get into the main they’re posting elsewhere.
It makes me feel kind of torn between two perspectives…It could be a really good thing – having new opinions and whatnot from people who wouldnt normally bother with the subforums, but in my less open minded and friendly moments I do worry that some of them will just ‘clog’ the subforums with the garbage they would’ve posted in the main…

i think you’re wrong about people not deserving to post here, because without the people there wouldn’t be a forum. the people made the forum just as much as fazle made it.

however, i don’t mind the main forum is locked, it doesn’t bother me.

And I, in turn, think you’re wrong. Fazle’s not benefitting from anything that goes on here, save for some philanthropic satisfaction from giving people a place to hang out and communicate. Since he’s not benefitting from the members of OT, he doesn’t owe it to us to keep OT online at all, much less turn it into a doors-open house party for the entire internet to join in. He’s doing it because he wants to, and if he wakes up in a pissy mood tomorrow and says "fuck you guys" and yanks the plug on the server, well, shit happens.
lol they are banning people from offtopic for posting on other forums.
That seems unlikely. Try getting the whole story first.
I used to go there all the time and have a general good time browsing..

Now..

It’s like a porn site

Want a link?
woah I guess since I have a sub I didn’t realize. Is it true you now have to have an active sub to view the main forum?>

Sure.
Ah, I see. So he wasn’t just posting on another forum, he was bashing Fazle on another forum. If he’s gonna use my hardware and my bandwidth for free and then bitch about when I want him to help pay for the service he uses…shit, I’d do that too.

This is what I mean about we aren’t entitled to post here. We do so at Fazle’s pleasure, because he owns the gate, the keys, and the castle.
Oh, so you think it is right to ban people for posting shit on other forums…WoW..
I’m not making a value judgement, right or wrong. I’m saying Fazle can do it, and he doesn’t owe it to what’shisface to put up with his shit because he doesn’t like Fazle’s policies.

Are you saying you think it’s right to take advantage of someone’s generosity and then turn around and talk shit about them to other people?
What they are saying isn’t hurting anyone, it is not costing him extra money or anything. You also have to remember it is a forum and people should be allowed to say whatever without fear of getting banned.
Ok after some consulting i can say say NO its not gonna happen, the other moderators have spoken out that only the main forum will undergo this change. Its highly unlikely that the sub forums will go into pay mode.
It looks like the other subforums are becoming more active due to the new changes.

It’s not a big deal to me…the main forum reminds me of hs.

Yeah, but it doesnt mean that this is a good thing…..
Yeah the douchebags Permabanned a major contributer of OT.

Hey you
The following place is unavailable: /otanimecrew/.ftpquota
It is unavailable because some dildo banned me forever, and i decided not to support OT if OT doesn’t support me.
If i do get unbanned, I will open the directories up again ASAP.
TTYL, Anders

Well yeah they are banning people in other sub forums because those posters are clearly NOT following the rules for serious discussions only. Yes, people who don’t follow rules should get banned….even if they are :00:.

I spend my time in the subforums because I don’t like the asshatery of the main board. I don’t want the same shit here….it isn’t productive to what goes on here and there are plenty of free boards elsewhere on the net.

I also would not like to see anyone in this thread get banned simply for civilized discussions. Now if they flame or shit like that, yeah fuck em….ban em all.

Nobody has a "right" to post on here except paid subscribers. You don’t like that idea? Tough…it’s the truth. Fazel owns the hardware and he can do with it what he will. There will be people that will pay to post here….why? Because as I discussed earlier, it’s an excellent entertainment cost per hour deal.

Bitch all you want but it’s obvious the advertising revenues alone were not enough to keep this place going….so now he’s trying to correct that.

Well yeah they are banning people in other sub forums because those posters are clearly NOT following the rules for serious discussions only. Yes, people who don’t follow rules should get banned….even if they are :00:.

I spend my time in the subforums because I don’t like the asshatery of the main board. I don’t want the same shit here….it isn’t productive to what goes on here and there are plenty of free boards elsewhere on the net.

I also would not like to see anyone in this thread get banned simply for civilized discussions. Now if they flame or shit like that, yeah fuck em….ban em all.

Nobody has a "right" to post on here except paid subscribers. You don’t like that idea? Tough…it’s the truth. Fazel owns the hardware and he can do with it what he will. There will be people that will pay to post here….why? Because as I discussed earlier, it’s an excellent entertainment cost per hour deal.

Bitch all you want but it’s obvious the advertising revenues alone were not enough to keep this place going….so now he’s trying to correct that.

lol I glen banned pay subs too.

?? You control glen? yeah sure….ok

Well the people posting in this thread so far are more regulars down here. It’s natural and normal and even healthy to discuss change with those you feel comfortable with.

However, getting all the BS from the main boards to occur down in the subforums? that sucks and should draw bans.

Now folks w/out a subscription who used to spend their time on the main forum offending folks, being a pain in the azz, and posting porn are now going to try to pull that crap elsewhere.

If they are breaking the rules, they should be banned.

?? You control glen? yeah sure….ok

Well the people posting in this thread so far are more regulars down here. It’s natural and normal and even healthy to discuss change with those you feel comfortable with.

However, getting all the BS from the main boards to occur down in the subforums? that sucks and should draw bans.

Honeslty, the main forum being paid subs only doesn’t bother me all that much. I usually just browse there only. My main contribution to this site is here, and in On Topic (sometimes).

The one thing that does worry me is those who aren’t willing to pay that sub, find a subform, and become a douche.

Now folks w/out a subscription who used to spend their time on the main forum offending folks, being a pain in the azz, and posting porn are now going to try to pull that crap elsewhere.

If they are breaking the rules, they should be banned.

Right, thats what I said,

but thanks.

I hope the subforum mods are on their toes about this stuff (not that I’ve seen evidence otherwise), if the Asylum and the Vag go down the crapper, I dunno what I’ll do.

Honeslty, the main forum being paid subs only doesn’t bother me all that much. I usually just browse there only. My main contribution to this site is here, and in On Topic (sometimes).

The one thing that does worry me is those who aren’t willing to pay that sub, find a subform, and become a douche.

Yeah that’s why I’m glad to see them aggressively waving the ban hammer. It will cut down on the doucebaggery once people see that they are serious and stop acting like spoiled rotten 10 year olds.

I don’t see any changes because I pay for a sub. To me, it’s a good deal but I know a lot of people don’t agree. By good deal I mean dollar per hour of entertainment.

Most of the people bitching think nothing of dropping close to $20 bucks at the movie theater for a 2-3 hour movie for them and their girl….not including snacks yet they’ll bitch about a yearly fee that’s pretty close.

They’ll also spend more time on OT than the movie so IMO it’s a good entertainment deal….but every year I’ll reevaluate it.

There are plenty of other free forums but I don’t know visit any other, serious discussion forums like The Asylum or Road to Recovery. I don’t even know if another one exists like this….I’m sure they do but I just haven’t bothered to look.

Wow just mentioning the movie thing is just about to convince me to buy a sub now

i think you’re wrong about people not deserving to post here, because without the people there wouldn’t be a forum. the people made the forum just as much as fazle made it.

however, i don’t mind the main forum is locked, it doesn’t bother me.

And all the people who originally made this place are able to still access the main forum for free as well as the 01, 02 and 03s (including you)

oh dear, we 02s and 03s are still left out. pending a decision by freakyshiat himself.

Well, I found us a safe place if things do go south. I really love OT, I’ve had my up’s and down’s with debilitating health problems over the years, and you guys kept me sane — well sort of — and even when I took a vacation away to work on those health issues, nobody here in Asylum was disrespectful in the least about the decision so I’ve set us up, just in case. I’ll hear back shortly about the news.

Support groups are free around the world, and internet and so should our group. We might donate by passing a basket at best. So if we’re forced to pay, I’m toeing the line, and everyone can e-mail me for the new location where Asylum can be setup. I will only give it out however if we’re informed that we’ll be actually losing access to The Asylum.

I understand the rest of the site might require charging to keep running or to handle various things, and that’s fine I’d possibly pay for that, but not Aslyum, that’s unacceptable if that were to happen.

that’s awesome. i’ve posted a horrible experience a long time ago, before an asylum sub forum and you wanted to help out. glad you decided to get back to ot.

Thank you for the news.

We’re be fine, like I said, I found us another spot in an emergency. We’re ok for now and DE will be helpful keeping this space clear of rule breaking.
I think overall, we shouldn’t be too worried about our place being subbed-only. So, rock on!

well, on SA you also have to pay $10 if you want to get unbanned, if you want an av, if you want your name changed, etc. at least here the other forums are free

Yeah but it is 9.99 for a lifetime sub…

Yeah but 95% of OT is free…

Besides the best part.

I hate the main forum. I’m kinda glad it’s a sinkhole for all the asshats to fall into.

At the same time, I don’t think making it subscription-only will affect the other forums much. It will encourage people who might not be complete asshats to look in the other forums, wherein they will contribute or else be banned for trolling, and the people who are complete asshats will go to other free forums where they can engage in asshattery in peace.

I hate the main forum. I’m kinda glad it’s a sinkhole for all the asshats to fall into.

At the same time, I don’t think making it subscription-only will affect the other forums much. It will encourage people who might not be complete asshats to look in the other forums, wherein they will contribute or else be banned for trolling, and the people who are complete asshats will go to other free forums where they can engage in asshattery in peace.

I agree with that. The sort of people that were likely to come to the sub forums in the first place aren’t really that bothered by the main forum change.

Not to mention we’re putting very little stress on OT Bandwidth and other resources.

I have a sub but I rarely go into the main forum anymore

I hate the main forum. I’m kinda glad it’s a sinkhole for all the asshats to fall into.

At the same time, I don’t think making it subscription-only will affect the other forums much. It will encourage people who might not be complete asshats to look in the other forums, wherein they will contribute or else be banned for trolling, and the people who are complete asshats will go to other free forums where they can engage in asshattery in peace.

This is what I was thinking/hoping too but the forum I usually hang out in has always gotten its fair share of trolls and I’m not so much looking forward to dealing with that nonsense until it levels back out.

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