Would anyone be interested in analyzing me with some date stories?

I’ve dated about 6 women since 2006, 5 recently from September 2007. I’d be more than happy to post pictures of the women I dated, just so we can put faces with names, etc. I’ll even post my picture before that… curious to get other’s analytic views on some of these short lived dates too.. would you guys be up for it? Always fun to hear date stories.
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I don’t understand what you’re asking? Are you going to post the date stories, or do you want others to post their date stories?

Yes to BOTH questions.

Yes, I am going to post them (starting with one tonight), in hopes that maybe someone can offer me some advice on where I went wrong and what I can do to better myself based upon my experiences.

Yes, I want others to post as well, just for the sake of having the same thing, so others can give them advice on how to better themselves…
Alright, I’ll start off with my first one. Before I go do that, I promised pictures of me to you guys. Well, you guys got it in the picture thread As you can see, I’m not a bad looking guy. I’m pretty decent, I think.

Now, before I move on, let me put a little disclaimer in here. I, in no way, have any hatred towards any of these women. When I first met them, I thought they were amazing, and for the most part would reccommend them to anyone to date. I will even go out on a limb and say that of the ones I would mention, all but one, I would gladly try again if given a second chance. I’m a firm believer of the whole "Everyone deserves a second chance" motto. Also, keep in mind, that all these women are women I met over the internet that either never lasted past a second date, first date or never even got to the original date. You will discover more in a few.

Let’s start with the first one, back in 2006. This is probably the safest one to write about now since it’s been 2 years and she just disappeared. After my gf at the time broke it off with me, and I tried to pursue her for a couple of months, some random girl shoots me an e-mail who saw some things I wrote. She was interested, because she like what I wrote and felt I was perfect for her. Well, enter this girl, Laura:

Wow, ok… she was equally as cute as my ex-gf but had an awesome personality to go with it. Her and I had the same warped sense of humor as well, so we immediately clicked! So, we met up for dinner at one of my favorite Italian Places which ended up being 5 minutes away from where she lived. We were at dinner easliy for over 2 hours, just sharing stories about people we dated. She told me right off the bat, that a lot of guys don’t get past the first date. After talking, I asked her to come with me to watch a friend’s hockey game. Well, as I was watching the game, I finally just grew some balls and held her close and kissed her. She said I was the first guy who ever kissed her first, and honestly, she was the only girl who I ever kissed on the first date.

After the first date, and some good making out towards the end of the date, we both kind of just got that feeling things would work out. Her and I talked some more after that, lots of texting and e-mails (some of which she told me how she was ready to throw herself on me, etc). We even dicussed a possible future and how things would be if they worked out. How she wanted to write a book with me, wanted me to meet her parents that next week, planned on going to a wedding with me the next month when my friend got married, even suggested that if her and I ever got married she would actually want me to go crazy with a bachelor party. We were already discussing plans about possible getaways if things were just as awesome 2-3 months down the line.

Alright, sounds all good, right? Well, this last for maybe a week tops because nothing happened after date 2. Date 2 came along and the plan was to watch a movie at my house. Well, it was a hot day and that day, I suggested to her swimming in my pool. She already had plans for the day but mentioned we could another day but how much she really wanted to see me. Great, right? Well, I told her not to back out of her plans with her friend to see me and we would do this another day. So of course, she backs out of her plans to see her friend, tells me she wants to do dinner, swimming and also watch a movie with me. Then hinted that she may not even get to watch the movie because she plans on being all over me.

Yeah, needless to say, I was very excited with this one. One thing that I remembered, was my ex-gf told me I didn’t make a move soon enough on her and because of that, she got very bored 3 months into things. I’m the type of guy where I need to be sure about things before I even think about progressing the dating and the physical aspect of it.

Ok, so this girl came over. We ate Chinese Food and then went swimming. She didn’t know how to really swim in the deep end so I taught her a little bit. Of course, swimming turned into some long makeout sessions in the pool (at this point, I really could have had sex with her but didn’t). So, after an hour or so of swimming, we decided to watch a movie. The movie was Wedding Crashers.

Let’s just say, that she didn’t throw herself on top of me, but rather, I was a little bit more aggresive when laying in bed with her and made some moves and again, more making out for pretty much the entire movie. After the movie was done, I started with some good kissing on the neck with this girl. This went on for a bit, and I swear, she was moaning in pleasure and at one point was giving some good orgasmic little screams. I seriously think I may have given this girl an orgasm just by kissing her on a certain spot on the neck (I somehow find this spot with girls, and they enjoy it).

So, after all of this, we finally decided to take it further. Her shirt comes off first, and I’m kissing her right above her breasts, working my way down. I have her take off my shirt and continue for a few minutes, before she actually STOPS ME. And here is what she says:

Laura: Hey, before we get too hot and heavy, I think we should stop.

Me: Umm, ok…

Laura: I hope you aren’t too disappointed that I told you to stop

Me: ….

Laura: I just think that we should wait 3 months before rushing into sex, all my past bf’s didn’t work out because they turned into sexual relationships after I had sex with them on the second date, and I don’t want to make that mistake again.

Me: Oh, I completely understand then. It’s fine, we can wait for 3 months before we decide to have sex.

Laura: Yeah, it will give us something to look forward to.

Me: Definitely

(Me putting shirt back on)

Laura: You aren’t too disappointed, are you?

Me: Nah, it’s cool. I have no problems with waiting 3 months.

Laura: Ok

At this point, I walk her to her car and she starts telling me she isn’t feeling well. There was no making out when she went to her car, she just gave me a quick peck and that was it. I immediately knew something was up.

The next day, she e-mailed me and told me she wasn’t feeling well. She also went on to tell me how she wanted to take things slow and didn’t want to rush the relationship. I told her I thought about that as well, and feel the same way, to take the relationship slower and not rush into anything. She wasn’t really e-mailing as much as she was before though.

So, another day passes by and she e-mails me out of the clear blue sky telling me that she thinks we shouldn’t start a relationship and then tells me she doesn’t want one and that we should just remain friends. After some discussion, trying to figure it out, she went on to tell me that it’s clear I wanted a relationship and she wasn’t ready for that because she had a lot going on with her job and with going back to school (I love these excuses) and felt that perhaps not even a friendship would work out.

After that, she completely stopped texting me, never answered my calls, stopped me from being able to IM her, and never responded to any of my e-mails. The worst part about all of this, was that she did this right when I sent in my invite to my friend and his wife saying I had a date for the wedding. Thankfully, I was able to find someone else within a month, but this was the second girl that did this to me (and also the second girl, at the time, who walked away from having sex with me)

After all of this, I discovered a month after she stopped talking to me, she was already seeing some other guy. What was funny about this, is that she ended up getting into a serious relationship with the guy after she told me she wasn’t ready for one. I believe the relationship lasted a little over a year again before they broke it off, but I can’t be positive that was the case as I wasn’t getting full information or details on the situation (no, I was not stalking them, just happened to know someone who gossiped a lot).

Well, there is my first "Internet Dating Story" Hope you guys enjoyed! I’ll post the second one later this weekend or next week!
You guys spent your 2 hours at dinner talking about the past people you dated. That doesn’t sound like a bad idea to you at all?

Then, still on the first date, you kissed her at a hockey game. Not the most romantic place on earth, but kudos on the courage — Still, you had just met her a few hours before, and you were already cuddling and kissing?

Next, you guys spent time talking about your futures. You just met, and you’re talking about what it would be like if you guys got married. You’re making yourself WAY too available. I have no fucking clue what I’m doing tomorrow, let alone 3 months from now. After meeting a girl one time, if she talked meeting parents and marriage stuff, I’d be freaked the hell out and probably would send her packing.

Then, you guys went swimming, but spent most of the time making out.

Next, you watched a movie, but spent most of the time making out.

You posed no challenge to her at all, and you pretty much let her know that you were hers if she wanted. Humans, even girls, want the things they can’t have. There was no chase at all involved in your dating with her.

I’m not a girl, and I don’t know exactly how women think, but if I had to guess, she probably felt like you just wanted sex since you were so physical so fast. Maybe not, I don’t know.

Either way, I think you became too committed too fast when you should have still been judging whether you want to see this girl ever again.
Good date story rangerfan.

All the pics of women I have seen you post all of them are hella cute.

It seems with this girl you might have been moving a little fast in the beginning of the dating… It sounds like you 2 were talking about bf/gf things like get-aways and such when you were only on the 2nd date. Being so quick to make it a bf/gf relationship might have shyed here away a little.

The other thing is that women don’t like to tell guys that they aren’t interested. They will continue to lead a guy on using him for his company until someone better comes along. And then they just stop responding to phone calls and messages. It sucks that most women can’t be up front with men and not lead them on but that is the nature of most women.

However this girl seemed more than interested in you otherwise she wouldn’t have been topless in your bed. What happened though is you got the Last Minute Resistance. Last minute resistance (LMR) is somewhat of a test that women give out to guys to determine really what kind of guy you are. If you are a weak/wussy man you’ll whine or beg her for sex, or try to convince her it will be okay. This is more than likely a turn-off for women, and she probably wont have sex with you. It’s not a good way to go. And an aggressive guy will try to be forceful in convincing her to have sex with him. This is bad too because even if she goes thru with it she’ll just have regretted it and a guy that forces a woman into sex is just an asshole. But a sexy, confident guy will reassure her that he feels the same way, but that she is just so irresitable. And then keep the interaction alive by just stepping back a little. Go back to more kissing, more fore play, or pull out a game to play, or make a snack in the kitchen, and then try again in 10 minutes. Some women get a nervous feeling just before having sex with a new guy. That is when the last minute resistance comes in to play. It doesn’t necessarily mean that she doesn’t want to have sex. I guess they say that it is like the nervous feeling that most guys get when approaching a woman for the first time.

The waiting 3 months thing for sex was just a test, and unfortunately you failed. Wait 3 months for sex? What a load of shit, you might as well just be friends then, and the guys that get friend-zoned are the wussy guys. Which is why you failed the test. Telling her you’d wait 3 months is something a wussy guy would agree to, and she knows damn well she wouldn’t be able to wait 3 months either. The guy she was dating after you I bet they were sexing it up within 2 weeks from the time you were with her. Getting around the last minute resistance is all about making the woman feel comfortable so that she doesn’t regret it or feel like a slut afterwards, and relaying to her that you are a sexual, confident man that is enjoying the time spent with her. Being too aggressive is bad, and being to quick to back off is equally bad. Remember slow and steady wins the race.

Keep ’em coming, I want to hear more of your date stories.
Thanks for the feedback all, I appreciate it. I may not agree with everything 100% but I do appreciate the feedback. As far as the first one… I’m not a big fan of playing the whole cat and mouse chase game. I’m honestly too old for that shit. I like up front and honest, for the most part. I’m not some high school kid or some kid in college, where I need to play these games to make someone chase me. Unfortunately, I date most girls who just got out of college who are used to these game.

As far as the second poster, trust me, I could not agree with you more on this. My mistake in the past is that I waited too long to make a move, I took this into consideration based upon what an ex-gf told me. But then, I make the move too soon and I also lose. I have a friend, who can make these same moves within 2 dates and he’s in a long term relationship. I try the same methods he does, and it just doesn’t work for me.. he can’t understand why either.

But, my personal analysis, is that yes, I tried to have sex with this girl way too soon. I probably should have waited for a couple of weeks before making that move. I guess I can kind of say, I didn’t listen to her, when she told me most of the guys she dated didn’t get past the first date and it was probably the same reason why. Unfortunately, I let a good one slip away by not listening, but in the same sense, she led me on to that point so she is just as much at fault as I am.

You guys will definitely have more coming. Actually, I think the next two, will show you guys the more shallow side of me when it comes to women and how I can be a little picky. They aren’t as long as this one, but you get the point.

Yeah, it’s their fault….

Being a bit of a challenge is not a game. It’s simply making yourself more attractive to the other person. That girl looks like she could walk into a bar and have her pick from 99% of the guys in there. Why would she pick someone who throws himself at her like the other 99% of the guys would?

It may seem like a game to you, but it’s basic human psychology. As long as you keep brushing it off like it’s not your fault, you’ll keep getting rejected like that.

Yeah, it’s their fault….

Being a bit of a challenge is not a game. It’s simply making yourself more attractive to the other person. That girl looks like she could walk into a bar and have her pick from 99% of the guys in there. Why would she pick someone who throws himself at her like the other 99% of the guys would?

It may seem like a game to you, but it’s basic human psychology. As long as you keep brushing it off like it’s not your fault, you’ll keep getting rejected like that.

it’s not so much a game as showing that you have a life and have confidence. Really, it should be no big deal if you want to go out with a girl and she is busy or declines. Why? Because people with a life (other friends, other dates, hobbies, interests) can honestly say ‘that’s cool, we’ll do it another time" and go on with their day.

Don’t think of it in terms of availability…think of it in terms of what it looks like. Being able to hang out with a girl at the drop of the hat makes her think "why does he have so much time? Doesn’t he do anything else?"

Yeah, it’s their fault….

Being a bit of a challenge is not a game. It’s simply making yourself more attractive to the other person. That girl looks like she could walk into a bar and have her pick from 99% of the guys in there. Why would she pick someone who throws himself at her like the other 99% of the guys would?

It may seem like a game to you, but it’s basic human psychology. As long as you keep brushing it off like it’s not your fault, you’ll keep getting rejected like that.

Ok, I think you missed something. I did not throw myself at her.

A.) She found me first
B.) We went on 1 date, talked a bit after that, I pretty much ignored her for a weekened because I went to a bachelor party instead (I think I left that out, but she encouraged it).
C.) I invited her over swimming yes, she said she was pretty much going to throw herself at me. She had plans with her friend but cancelled them to come hang with me, even though I told her to keep her plans with friends.
D.) Yes, we made out, yes I attempted to have sex with her early on.. but honestly, who wouldn’t? If a girl is throwing herself at you, are you going to say no. 90% of the guys I know won’t say no.
E.) I decided to become the aggresor with her because of something an ex-gf told me, that I wasn’t aggresive early on with her and that pretty much drove her away, so in sense I was trying to learn from my mistake by correcting it with this one, but it backfired.

As an FYI, she stopped talking to me after a female friend made a comment about this girl that she was playing games (female friend is a licensed psychiatrist too). I disagreed with female friend, but this girl saw it and found out the girl said that and moved on because of that.. end of story.

I’ll post the next one tomorrow. It isn’t as exciting or juicy as this one, it’s a little boring, but eh… they get better (or worse) after that.
why are you talking about marriage on the first date?

that’s weird.

why are you talking about marriage on the first date?

that’s weird.

Well, I don’t bring up the topic of us getting married. I just mentioned my friend’s bachelor party and she went on about marriage. I didn’t make anything out of it, something like that won’t scare me away, especially with a girl who I thought was awesome off the bat. I just figured she was making small talk. It wasn’t like she was saying "oh, I can so see us getting married now" after seeing me once. by the way, she’s not the first girl to discuss marriage with me…
Alright, so after this one in 2006, I pretty much didn’t bother with any more girls until my ex-gf tried to reconcile things in April 2007. After that happened, September 2007 rolled along and I figured out she was dating some dude when she went to a Rutgers game with me and just spent half the time texting the guy about their planned drunken hook-up on Friday night. Needless to say, I stopped pursuing and put myself out on some singles sites. It took me about a month but I met this next girl:

Meet Marti. I was a little skeptical at first to meet her, mainly becaus she had a lot angle pictures. Not only that, but she was 3 years older than me. But she had me set with the one picture there with her cat, so I figured what the heck, might as well give it a chance.

Unfortunately, this is one where I got a little too picky. So, we talked on the phone for a little bit and the conversation felt awkward and felt like we had nothing in common. So, I decided to rush through the conversation a bit and see if she wanted to meet up after exchanging e-mails for the past week or so.

We did, and what became funny about this was that when we did, we both couldn’t go the same day for the same reason. Well, I’ll give you the conversation:

Me: Hey, so want to get together and meet up?

Marti: Sure, that sounds good, where do you want to meet?

Me: I’m thinking halfway point between you and me (she lived about 25 miles away).

Marti: Well, I would rather not do that, how about closer to you? What is close to you? (I felt this was strange)

Me: ok, cool, there is this seafood place in the mall near us, how about there?

Marti: Sure, perfect, what day were you thinking?

Me: Well, I can’t go Saturday night because I have a house warming party to go to, so how about Friday or Monday?

Marti: I promised to hang out with my friend on Friday but Monday works. Hey, I have a house warming party to go to Saturday too.

Me: Oh cool. Monday works then. Yeah my friend and his wife bought a house together in (insert town name here) and they are having their party that day. It’s a nice place.

Marti: Oh really? My friends just got married and bought a house too.. wait, what town did you say again?

(tell her town)

Marti: I’m going to one in that town too!

Me: Ummm, wait, do we have the same friends? Do you know Larry and Darlene

Marti: YEAH!!! That’s who’s party I am going.

Me: No way, me too. I’ve known the husband since third grade! I am surprised I never met you before, I guess we will see each other there then too

Anyway, yeah we had the same mutual friends which really did not sit well with me after I just experienced that already. I missed her at the party. I came early and left early because of other plans, she came a few hours after me.

Ok, so I met her, and she was about 15lbs heavier than her picture. I made no big deal about that. After all, it happens. But she is 33 now and she posted picturss of herself when she was 24, that again didn’t sit well with me. So we met up, and the first thing she did was kissed me on the cheek. Usually, I’m a hug first person but the kiss on the cheek again was odd to me, a little too straight forward when you first meet someone in my opinion.

Ok, so I tend to ignore this and think to myself, maybe it’s part of her culture. She is Puerto Rican by the way. So I continue on through the date and dinner, as we got talking, she was really cool but also seemed very serious and just didn’t seem like a person who could lighten up when I was with her. Through the date, I found out she was divorced, about 2 years ago. One of my many rules is not to date someone who has been married and now divorced. I had an ex-gf who tried to get back with me, and I rejected her because she was married and in the process of her divorce.

So, I ended the date, we talked a little more over the next few weeks. Tried to make some plans but her schedule got in the way. I decided to suck it up and maybe give it a shot. But the more I thought about it, the more I could not see myself being more than a friend with this girl. I’m attracted to the party type of girls (in other words, the girls that are wrong for me) and she was not this.

Last time I saw her, she came to a Halloween Party which ironically enough my ex-gf and I put together. Well, she came I guess thinking I was still interested but that same night, I had my ex-gf throwing herself at me (yes we ended up in bed together but nothing happened). Actually, my intention was to hook Marti up with my one friend, because she seemed like the perfect match and perfect fit for my friend and was exactly his type. They hit it off well at the party, talked all night until 2am when she left. Unfortunately, my friend didn’t catch on that I was trying to set him with her so he never pursued.

Anyway, that’s my boring story with this one. So as you can tell, nothing wrong with the girl but I was just pretty picky. Unfortunately, I know what I want and she just wasn’t it. I haven’t spoken to her since. I sent her a few e-mails after that, she conversed with me but just one day stopped responding. I guess she too felt like this was only a friendship and she was probably wanting more, and I didn’t want more from her…
I’ll be posting another story towards the end of this week. I hope you guys are enjoying these
Nothing wrong with befriending some of the women you meet… they may introduce you to some of thier hot friends.
Well, as I promised, here is another date story. After the whole thing with the previous girl didn’t work, I once again *sigh* tried to chase my ex for a little bit. Well, once again, I feel like I got used and once again felt hurt. I was out at a club one night with my friend and his gf (ex’s best friend) and his gf was telling me how my ex-gf was dating some guy, who she said was "not serious with". Turns out, the guy was using her only for sex, and the mental image I had was enough to disgust me with the thought.

So, I thought, what better way to get my mind off of this than to keep checking the singles sites again. So, I found the free one (plentyoffish) and figured what the heck. The stories were enough to scare anyone off on there but it was worth a shot. So, a few days past and this girl sends me a message. Her name is Kacey, here are the two pictures I had of her on there:

So, I looked at it, she didn’t look perfect in my eyes, but somewhat average but I was ok with it, because at one point she looked pretty cute. Hmm, not bad. We messaged each other back and forward and pretty much decided to start IM’ing each other. IM’ing each other turned into a phone call. We were on the phone for about 2 1/2 hours the first night. She asked me some standard questions, which seemed pretty legit, to make sure I was normal. Questions like:
-Do you have a jealous female best friend
-Do you have a job and car?
-Were you ever in jail?
-Do you do drugs?
-Are you missing any limbs?
-Do you have any children, are you married, divorced or seperated.

Stuff like this. I thought it was funny, but of course I had the right answers for her (I’m about as normal as they come I guess).

So, each night we were talking for a good 2 1/2 hours. Had some good stories from her. Some of which she told me she had some serious stalker cases off the free dating site, where someone followed her all the way down to Atlantic City. It was pretty much an ex-bf. She had abusive relationships too.

But then, the red flag was raised with me and I had my suspicions. One thing I enjoy the most, is going out to the beach. I asked her if she likes the beach and her response was she does, at night, where you can cuddle, make out, etc. Ok, cool. I asked her about he day and she turned around and said "Not really, I don’t like being in a bathing suit." Uh oh! Later on, she made a comment about her thick thighs.

But, she continued to make herself sound like a pretty girl, which was good. She would tell me how her best guy friend who was going through a divorce said he would date her because she was hot, and went on to say that if we went on a Halloween Party date, she would dress up as Britney Spears in a school girl outfit and I could be her Kevin Federline. Heh. Ok, so, maybe she just wasn’t comfortable on the beach? After all, my ex-gf was never comfortable on the beach either.

So, one night, I was out with my buddies and they pointed out the fact to me that she had a picture with angles, and wasn’t showing anything below the top of her chest. This could mean she had a huge ass and may not be that good below her picture. So, playing dumb, my friends said to text her and mention how I was talking to my friends about her and they wanted to see a picture but I didn’t have one on my phone, so to take a picture of herself and send it so my friends can see it.

Well, I did this, figuring nothing to lose. After all, if she was decent looking, she would have no problems with this. Well, she got offended by it and pretty much called my friend’s jerks for asking to send a picture. She finally did give in and said she sent a picture (though I never got it) and it was the same one that was on the site. Hmm, ok, odd.

Well, she ended up canceling on our first date, saying she was sick. She called me that morning of the date to tell me she was sick. So, something was up. I had to figure out what it was. No, before I go on, let me just again say that before this, we were having some great conversations and she was a really cool girl to talk to. I actually enjoyed talking to her.

So, I felt I had to be a little "stalkerish", so to speak, and figure out what the problem was with her. So, I found her myspace page and it was the same pictures as her singles site. Hmm, odd. (by the way, she is not on the site any more and has met someone from what I gather). So, I start going through her friends to see if I can get a full body pic. Most of her friends are private, those that weren’t, didn’t have a picture.. all except for one. So I find the picture and here is what I get:

WHAT?! OMG!! This can’t be the same girl, can it?! I had to show some friends, and they said the facial expressions and feature indeed proved it was the same girl and on her friend’s page, it had her name, etc. Eeks! Now, apparently this was an old picture. The first pictures were more recent.

So, I sucked it up. First, I said to myself "you know, a girl that can lose that much weight, has to have some serious motivation. If that is the case, I really want to meet this girl." But, in the back of my mind, I wanted to meet her because I was now curious to see what she really looked like. The first pictures gaveme impressions she was about 135lbs or so, compared to the 200+ that she was in the second large picture.

Ok, so I continued to talk to her. I did not bring up I found this. I didn’t want her to think I was some stalker. However, there became a big problem. That night of our date, she called me again. As a matter of fact, she was calling me TWO TIMES A DAY! She went from a possible stage 1 clinger with a phone call a day to stage 3 clinger.. eeks. But, I was nice about it and kept it friendly for the most part.

But then, she was starting to make some future plans for us.. stuff like me taking her to hockey games and football gams, talking like we were already a couple with each other and were going to spend valentine’s day with each other, even started using my last name with her name to see how it would sound. Uh oh! This can’t be good.

So, we actually came to the day of the date. So, the date came and she called me in the morning around 9am. She was telling me she was looking forward to the date and meeting me for the first time. The she was telling me that on the date, since she was only a few inches shorter than me, she was going to wear stiletto heels so she can be about my height. One thing about me, I don’t like those kind of heels. I tend to associate them with whores and hookers.

Alright, whatever, I wasn’t going to tell her that. Let her wear what she wanted to wear. So, we talked for about an hour and she said she would call me later when we were going to meet. She calls me again at 5pm, about 3 hours before our date, to make sure we were still on (sheesh, she could have just left the 9am call). So we chat a bit and before I get off the phone with her, I ask her if there is anything she needs to tell me about herself before we meet, so this way I am not shocked or surprised when I meet her. She assures me no. I had to cut the conversation short, did not want to be on a 2 hour phone call with her again for the day, so I lied and said I had to help my neighbor.

So, our date was set for 8pm. Now, me being the guy, I’m usually about 20-25 minutes early for any date I go on. I never get there "just on time" or "late". This time I prepared to be 20 minutes early, so 7:40pm it was for me. I decided to take her to one of my favorite hole in the wall restaurants and meet her there. So, while I am driving, she calls to talk and guess what? She is already there, twenty minutes before I am! Yikes, this smells of desperation to me because usually I am used to girls being on time or later than expected.

Ok, so I found out that evening, that my friends were going to be a block away or so in case I needed them, as they had plans to go to a restaurant in the same town. So, I go to park my car and meet this girl. Go down the elevator and look to my left and see some girl sitting down, texting and smoking (eeks, smoker, big no no, she did tell me she was trying to quit and was serious about it but this was not a good first impression).

So, I look and see a girl who was about 170lb or so… umm, so I keep walking to the right, hoping this wasn’t the girl and the actual girl was inside waiting for me. Nope, no such luck, this was the girl. She didn’t look like her picture precisely but it was her. So we meet and go grab dinner. On top of he weight, on top of her smoking, there was another problem I had with her. Her jeans!

Now, I’m a guy who likes a girl who can pull off wearing a good pair of jeans if we are going out (if not, hope you have a good summer dress or mini-skirt). I like to go out with a girl who wears them so well, heads will turn and go "wow". Every girl I dated, has been good with a pair of jeans they owned and they were pretty tight. Weird thing I know. Well, this girl was prety much wearing the baggest jeans she could find and the jeans had holes in the ass. Not good, made it seem like she could not afford a new pair of jeans after she lost the weight.

Alright, another strike. So we eat dinner. By now, I might have ran out on the date and asked a friend to save me saying his car broke down, but I was hungry (and really wanted starbucks afterwards too). I sucked it up, had dinner with her. As we were eating dinner, she kept going on about us being bf/gf eeks. She then went on with a story about her one friend is very overprotective of her and if anyone did any harm to her physically or mentally, he would probably track them down and beat them lifeless. Ok, now I’m scared.

So, I ignored it, we started to talk about dating and what we wanted. I eventually had to break out a story on how my ex-gf is now longer seeing the guy she was dating and that if I was single and she was single, I’d give her another chance, etc. I was hoping I would make it clear, that I was re-interested in the ex-gf but she wasn’t buying it. Ok, so all this time, my friend was texting me. I eventually had to keep texting him back about the date.

Ok a little rude of me, I know, but being I had no interest at all in this girl and we never hooked up and probably never were going to, I had to do something. So, we finished dinner, she paid her portion, I paid mine. I didn’t even offer to pay. She was really cool with that, but it didn’t throw her the hint. She wanted to go to starbucks with me. Ugh. So we do, all the while, friend is still texting me.

As we finish there, I come up with a B.S. story on how this one girl I know that lives in the town wanted me to come over and spend the night with her, saying that I do that sometimes with her and that she was the one texting me (though it was my friend). So, I walk her to the elevator, tell her it was nice to meet her and say I can’t walk her to her car because I was going to the girl’s house (to pretty much get laid though false lol). I told her I would call her the next day. I never did….

So, here is what I learned here:
1.) Make sure to get full body pic next time
2.) I need to grow some balls and not lie to someone to avoid them, call them the next day and tell them I jus was not interested.
3.) Stop trying to chase my ex-gf
4.) Don’t say I will call someone if I never plan on doing so again.

Ok, so my next one will be posted next week some time. I may include 2 in 1 because honestly, 1 really didn’t happen and 1 was so quick, I didn’t even know I was on the date. LOL!
I should be posting the next set of stories tonight and/or tomorrow. These aren’t as interesting or detailed as the ones I just posted, but just some analytical advice I have to remember to keep and try next time.

Well, as I promised, here is another date story. After the whole thing with the previous girl didn’t work, I once again *sigh* tried to chase my ex for a little bit. Well, once again, I feel like I got used and once again felt hurt. I was out at a club one night with my friend and his gf (ex’s best friend) and his gf was telling me how my ex-gf was dating some guy, who she said was "not serious with". Turns out, the guy was using her only for sex, and the mental image I had was enough to disgust me with the thought.

So, I thought, what better way to get my mind off of this than to keep checking the singles sites again. So, I found the free one (plentyoffish) and figured what the heck. The stories were enough to scare anyone off on there but it was worth a shot. So, a few days past and this girl sends me a message. Her name is Kacey, here are the two pictures I had of her on there:

So, I looked at it, she didn’t look perfect in my eyes, but somewhat average but I was ok with it, because at one point she looked pretty cute. Hmm, not bad. We messaged each other back and forward and pretty much decided to start IM’ing each other. IM’ing each other turned into a phone call. We were on the phone for about 2 1/2 hours the first night. She asked me some standard questions, which seemed pretty legit, to make sure I was normal. Questions like:
-Do you have a jealous female best friend
-Do you have a job and car?
-Were you ever in jail?
-Do you do drugs?
-Are you missing any limbs?
-Do you have any children, are you married, divorced or seperated.

Stuff like this. I thought it was funny, but of course I had the right answers for her (I’m about as normal as they come I guess).

So, each night we were talking for a good 2 1/2 hours. Had some good stories from her. Some of which she told me she had some serious stalker cases off the free dating site, where someone followed her all the way down to Atlantic City. It was pretty much an ex-bf. She had abusive relationships too.

But then, the red flag was raised with me and I had my suspicions. One thing I enjoy the most, is going out to the beach. I asked her if she likes the beach and her response was she does, at night, where you can cuddle, make out, etc. Ok, cool. I asked her about he day and she turned around and said "Not really, I don’t like being in a bathing suit." Uh oh! Later on, she made a comment about her thick thighs.

But, she continued to make herself sound like a pretty girl, which was good. She would tell me how her best guy friend who was going through a divorce said he would date her because she was hot, and went on to say that if we went on a Halloween Party date, she would dress up as Britney Spears in a school girl outfit and I could be her Kevin Federline. Heh. Ok, so, maybe she just wasn’t comfortable on the beach? After all, my ex-gf was never comfortable on the beach either.

So, one night, I was out with my buddies and they pointed out the fact to me that she had a picture with angles, and wasn’t showing anything below the top of her chest. This could mean she had a huge ass and may not be that good below her picture. So, playing dumb, my friends said to text her and mention how I was talking to my friends about her and they wanted to see a picture but I didn’t have one on my phone, so to take a picture of herself and send it so my friends can see it.

Well, I did this, figuring nothing to lose. After all, if she was decent looking, she would have no problems with this. Well, she got offended by it and pretty much called my friend’s jerks for asking to send a picture. She finally did give in and said she sent a picture (though I never got it) and it was the same one that was on the site. Hmm, ok, odd.

Well, she ended up canceling on our first date, saying she was sick. She called me that morning of the date to tell me she was sick. So, something was up. I had to figure out what it was. No, before I go on, let me just again say that before this, we were having some great conversations and she was a really cool girl to talk to. I actually enjoyed talking to her.

So, I felt I had to be a little "stalkerish", so to speak, and figure out what the problem was with her. So, I found her myspace page and it was the same pictures as her singles site. Hmm, odd. (by the way, she is not on the site any more and has met someone from what I gather). So, I start going through her friends to see if I can get a full body pic. Most of her friends are private, those that weren’t, didn’t have a picture.. all except for one. So I find the picture and here is what I get:

WHAT?! OMG!! This can’t be the same girl, can it?! I had to show some friends, and they said the facial expressions and feature indeed proved it was the same girl and on her friend’s page, it had her name, etc. Eeks! Now, apparently this was an old picture. The first pictures were more recent.

So, I sucked it up. First, I said to myself "you know, a girl that can lose that much weight, has to have some serious motivation. If that is the case, I really want to meet this girl." But, in the back of my mind, I wanted to meet her because I was now curious to see what she really looked like. The first pictures gaveme impressions she was about 135lbs or so, compared to the 200+ that she was in the second large picture.

Ok, so I continued to talk to her. I did not bring up I found this. I didn’t want her to think I was some stalker. However, there became a big problem. That night of our date, she called me again. As a matter of fact, she was calling me TWO TIMES A DAY! She went from a possible stage 1 clinger with a phone call a day to stage 3 clinger.. eeks. But, I was nice about it and kept it friendly for the most part.

But then, she was starting to make some future plans for us.. stuff like me taking her to hockey games and football gams, talking like we were already a couple with each other and were going to spend valentine’s day with each other, even started using my last name with her name to see how it would sound. Uh oh! This can’t be good.

So, we actually came to the day of the date. So, the date came and she called me in the morning around 9am. She was telling me she was looking forward to the date and meeting me for the first time. The she was telling me that on the date, since she was only a few inches shorter than me, she was going to wear stiletto heels so she can be about my height. One thing about me, I don’t like those kind of heels. I tend to associate them with whores and hookers.

Alright, whatever, I wasn’t going to tell her that. Let her wear what she wanted to wear. So, we talked for about an hour and she said she would call me later when we were going to meet. She calls me again at 5pm, about 3 hours before our date, to make sure we were still on (sheesh, she could have just left the 9am call). So we chat a bit and before I get off the phone with her, I ask her if there is anything she needs to tell me about herself before we meet, so this way I am not shocked or surprised when I meet her. She assures me no. I had to cut the conversation short, did not want to be on a 2 hour phone call with her again for the day, so I lied and said I had to help my neighbor.

So, our date was set for 8pm. Now, me being the guy, I’m usually about 20-25 minutes early for any date I go on. I never get there "just on time" or "late". This time I prepared to be 20 minutes early, so 7:40pm it was for me. I decided to take her to one of my favorite hole in the wall restaurants and meet her there. So, while I am driving, she calls to talk and guess what? She is already there, twenty minutes before I am! Yikes, this smells of desperation to me because usually I am used to girls being on time or later than expected.

Ok, so I found out that evening, that my friends were going to be a block away or so in case I needed them, as they had plans to go to a restaurant in the same town. So, I go to park my car and meet this girl. Go down the elevator and look to my left and see some girl sitting down, texting and smoking (eeks, smoker, big no no, she did tell me she was trying to quit and was serious about it but this was not a good first impression).

So, I look and see a girl who was about 170lb or so… umm, so I keep walking to the right, hoping this wasn’t the girl and the actual girl was inside waiting for me. Nope, no such luck, this was the girl. She didn’t look like her picture precisely but it was her. So we meet and go grab dinner. On top of he weight, on top of her smoking, there was another problem I had with her. Her jeans!

Now, I’m a guy who likes a girl who can pull off wearing a good pair of jeans if we are going out (if not, hope you have a good summer dress or mini-skirt). I like to go out with a girl who wears them so well, heads will turn and go "wow". Every girl I dated, has been good with a pair of jeans they owned and they were pretty tight. Weird thing I know. Well, this girl was prety much wearing the baggest jeans she could find and the jeans had holes in the ass. Not good, made it seem like she could not afford a new pair of jeans after she lost the weight.

Alright, another strike. So we eat dinner. By now, I might have ran out on the date and asked a friend to save me saying his car broke down, but I was hungry (and really wanted starbucks afterwards too). I sucked it up, had dinner with her. As we were eating dinner, she kept going on about us being bf/gf eeks. She then went on with a story about her one friend is very overprotective of her and if anyone did any harm to her physically or mentally, he would probably track them down and beat them lifeless. Ok, now I’m scared.

So, I ignored it, we started to talk about dating and what we wanted. I eventually had to break out a story on how my ex-gf is now longer seeing the guy she was dating and that if I was single and she was single, I’d give her another chance, etc. I was hoping I would make it clear, that I was re-interested in the ex-gf but she wasn’t buying it. Ok, so all this time, my friend was texting me. I eventually had to keep texting him back about the date.

Ok a little rude of me, I know, but being I had no interest at all in this girl and we never hooked up and probably never were going to, I had to do something. So, we finished dinner, she paid her portion, I paid mine. I didn’t even offer to pay. She was really cool with that, but it didn’t throw her the hint. She wanted to go to starbucks with me. Ugh. So we do, all the while, friend is still texting me.

As we finish there, I come up with a B.S. story on how this one girl I know that lives in the town wanted me to come over and spend the night with her, saying that I do that sometimes with her and that she was the one texting me (though it was my friend). So, I walk her to the elevator, tell her it was nice to meet her and say I can’t walk her to her car because I was going to the girl’s house (to pretty much get laid though false lol). I told her I would call her the next day. I never did….

So, here is what I learned here:
1.) Make sure to get full body pic next time
2.) I need to grow some balls and not lie to someone to avoid them, call them the next day and tell them I jus was not interested.
3.) Stop trying to chase my ex-gf
4.) Don’t say I will call someone if I never plan on doing so again.

Ok, so my next one will be posted next week some time. I may include 2 in 1 because honestly, 1 really didn’t happen and 1 was so quick, I didn’t even know I was on the date. LOL!

Jesus christ man, you spend way too much time on the phone. Seriously, two and a half hours each night? Do you not have a life?

I’m still trying to figure out why you went on the date after seeing the pic, or why you didn’t leave the date once you found out what she looked like in person.

You’ve got to be a glutton for punishment. You had all these warning signs, but you went on the date…

Next time, trust your instincts. And stop paying for any dinners for her if you have been doing this…like this date, congratulations, you gave a fat girl a free meal and got nothing for it.
Heh, thankfully this only went on for 3 weeks. yes, 2 1/2 hours on the phone with this girl was way too much. I have plenty of free time, as well as plenty of hobbies to keep me busy. I just opt not to go out and party every night like some people and waste money, so a lot of times I am home. If I am not home, usually dinner with friends or a hockey game during the week that I have to play.

Umm, you mis-read what I said. I did NOT offer to pay for her meal, as a way of showing I wasn’t interested. So I did not pay for it at all. I think you missed this part "she paid her portion, I paid mine. I didn’t even offer to pay"
Date #4
Alright, well here are the next two. I met both through singles sites again, from two different ones. Let’s start with the first one, Lauren. So this girl contacts me and I get the following two pictures:

I think to myself "not bad, she looks a little like a combo of Mandy Moore and Kelly Clarkson, definitely a cutie"

So we get talking for a week or so, but she stops respond. Ok, whatever. I make no big deal about it, since I am already talking to two other girls. Well, after the next girl fails, I try this one again. So we talk on AIM and I get another two pictures, of her sloppy drunk this time:

I’m not feeling the shape of her boobs there, and on top of this, I’m not seeing the rest of her body. What is she hiding? So, she wants to talk. I tell her to call me the next day and we will talk on the phone. What I forgot was that I had a hockey game that night. So she calls me during my game. Obviously I could not answer and she left a voicemail. After she calls, she texts saying she called. Ok, no big deal, I do that sometimes too, in case the person doesn’t really check vm or have vm (like my ex-gf).

So, then within the past hour, during my game.. she calls again. Wtf! She then texts me again and says "I guess you don’t want to talk. Give me a call if you want." Ok, sounds like someone was in desperate need of attention.

So, as I was in the locker room, I showed my friend this. I opted not to respond. I get home and my friend shows me an IM and tells me to look at the girl’s myspace. I do and see nothing wrong, he then tells me to look at the beach pictures.. well, this is her on the right in both pictures:

Needless to say, I never talked to her again. Nevermind the fact that she has the huge fat rolls, but the desperation killed off her chance (the fat rolls though, added it to badly). I hate being cruel and I know I’m not perfect either.. but what is it with these chicks posting pictures and then not going full body pics so we at least know what we are dealing with?

Date #5
So here is date number 5. Meet Amy.

Finally, a girl not afraid to show off her body! And hey, kickboxing, love it already! I was reluctant with Amy at first because, well, I’ve dated an Amy and an Aimee already in the past but what the heck, I figured third time was a charm. This one was pretty quick. We were e-mailing back and forward for almost two weeks. Never really got to talking on the phone, she was busy with school and work, so we kept e-mailing once a day which was fine.

We finally decided it was time to meet, pretty much her initiating it. So we go and meet and I get there a few minutes early. I don’t see her. Eventually, I saw a car pull up and a girl on the phone in the car not getting out. Not sure if it was her, so I gave it 10 minutes.. still on the phone. I called, no answer. She called back, yes it was her in the car. She got out of the car, and wow! She looked BETTER than her picture.

So, we went to one of my favorite places for dinner, which was an in between for her and me and where we lived. It started out good, but by the middle or the end of the dinner, I felt like she was trying to rush her way out of dinner and end the date early. So, here I am, trying to figure out what it was I did or said wrong, but didn’t ask. One thing that went wrong for me that day was that my shaver broke on me right when I was about to shave an hour before the date. So I might have had five o’clock shadow, which may have turned her off. No idea… but I offered to pay for dinner, she refused to let me and wanted to make it equal payment. Fine with me, I wasn’t going to argue. Some girls are like that.

The next few days, no phone calls or e-mails from her. The next week, she posts this long ass blog about how she doesn’t want to date anyone at the moment. She has tried and she just can’t find anyone normal. Between drug addicts, losers who can’t drive, people who have never been out of state or never travel, etc. Basically, what it came down to, was I think she was and still is obsessed with her ex-bf. Backstory here, ex-bf cheated on her, remains friends with her and has a new gf. Ex-bf was asked to watch the girl’s cat for her when she went away and it turns out, he brought his gf into the apartment and had sex with his gf in this girl’s apartment and told her is was his way of putting space and seperating them apart even further.

There you have it. Last one coming up sometime next week I think. The last one is by far the most attractive person and the one I had the most interest in… so it might be a little bit more analytical and long.
Ahh, so I promised you guys a final date story so here it goes. I decided to give this online dating thing one more chance. I was talking to this girl a little via e-mail before I decided to meet the other girl, but figured "hey, why not have two options"

So, since the other girl didn’t work out, I said it was time to focus on this one. So, meet Teresa, probably the best looking girl out of all of them and in my mind the best looking girl I ever "dated"

Ok, enough pictures. You should have seen some of the other ones.. the girl probably could have pulled off being a stripper, and in one picture, she looked like she had a boob job.

The thing about Teresa was that she lives in NY, but lived in Vegas prior to this. But, only 35 minutes away in NY from me, so it wasn’t too bad. She also told me that she worked a lot, and a lot of her relationships ended because a guy told her that she obviously had no time for him. Me, on the other hand, felt that working was a good thing and that keeping busy is never bad, it gives you your own sense of identity.

So, we e-mailed for a week straight or so. We had a lot in common as well. She was a huge sports fan, and worked in sports, she got extra points for being a Rangers and Yankees fan. So right there, things were looking up. After a week of e-mailing/texting we decided to talk on the phone. I told her I would give her a call on a Friday on my way home from work, she said that worked perfect for her. So I did that, no answer.. left voicemail, sent text. She responded back apologizing about not being able to talk and told me she forgot I was supposed to call and was out, but to call her on Sunday.

So, Sunday rolled along and we had a great phone conversation. Heck, we were talking for close to 4 hours! We had a lot to talk about. We came to the conclusion that we had the same taste in music and that we were both looking for the same thing, someone who we could find, develop a relationship with and fall in love with. We started talking about random things. I shared my previous date stories, she shared hers.

Now, she told me about three guys she dated or were supposed to meet. One guy she met online, went to go meet her and he was about 250lbs and looked nothing like his picture. The next guy, went out to dinner with her and the first question he asked was what color panties she was wearing so she just left. The third one, was supposed to meet her at a club in Hoboken with his buddy. She went out of her way to drive there. The guy called, said he was running 15 minutes late because he got a flat tire. 2 hours later, when she was already drinking, he didn’t show up and he said he had to change his tire. By the way, the guy lived 2 blocks away from where they were meeting. So, after hearing these 3, no way could I blow it. I wasn’t pulling off bullshit like these guys.

So, after this phone conversation, we decided to meet up later in the week that Friday. It was the day after Valentine’s Day. We were texting each other a lot during this week, including me texting her about Rangers games because I would just get excited that I had someone to share these games with now. So, Thursday rolled along and I got a text from her, telling me that she had to cancel for Friday because she was starting to feel sick and thought she was coming down with the flu. We re-scheduled for next Friday. During the weekend, I sent her a text that basically was a "feel better" type of text.

I didn’t hear from her until that Tuesday, telling me she basically didn’t talk to anyone all week long except for her parents, but told me she was still feeling under the weather but getting better. So we exchanged some texts back and forward and I waited a few days to contact her again. I text her on Thursday, asking her if we were still on for Friday night. I hear back from her with a "Oh shit, sorry, I forgot to tell you but I have to work extra on Friday night because I missed some time off when I was sick last weekend".

Fair enough, the past two weeks sounded like legit excuses to me. I asked if we could reschedule again for the following Friday. She said definitely. The next day, we were texting each other about the Rangers game like we were doing for the past 2-3 weeks and she came out of the clear blue sky and said "you don’t have to give me a play by play on every goal that is scored for the Rangers, just the final score will be fine!" Keep in mind, this is a girl that works in sports and told me that what I was doing, was basically what she does when the Yankees play. Ok, I got it, I took the hint. We exchanged a few texts after that and I stopped texting her until next Thursday.

The following Thursday rolls along, and again I text her (by the way, if you’re wondering why I wasn’t calling it was because she worked at night and told me she preferred texts, it was easier). I asked her if we were still on for Friday night. This time, she gave me an unacceptable excuse. It was along the lines of "Oh shit! I totally forgot, I’m really sorry but I can’t…" I shot her a text back and just went "Ok, no worries. Just let me know when you are free to get together and we will try another time.

After that, I ignored her for 2 1/2 weeks. After ignoring her for that amount of time, she shoots me a text apologizing for being MIA and not getting in touch with me but she was busy with work and such. Funny thing was, she was texting me when I was with my ex-gf, so this really worked in my favor as I could now show my ex-gf that I had someone else I was talking to so she didn’t think I was obsessing over her.

So, we exchanged texts, and she said that she needed a date for opening day for the Yankees. I was reluctant but pretty much told her it was a done deal. I figured, what the heck, I need to get to a Yankees game anyway and opening day the last season and the original stadium, sounds like a good date and heck, if she backed out, my friend wanted to go. So yeah, I decided I’m spending money, $400 for a pair of tickets. Insane, I know, but I really wanted to go and didn’t care who I went with.

So, we had the date set. I met her in NYC, she finally kept a date. She didn’t get there on time really, but you can’t expect girls to be on time right? LOL! So, we finally met, and she was exactly who she said she was and I was exactly who she was expecting. We head to Yankees Stadium, in the pouring rain. She reall didn’t dress up nice, but neither did I. We both were very casual and acted like ourselves around each other, and really didn’t feel the need to try and impress one another… we were just that comfortable.

So, we get to the stadium and the game is delayed. It’s fine, we needed to find our seats. Well, she was getting a little upset about not being able to find our seats. They were different seats and after asking 10 ushers, we were still in the wrong seats. It turned out, our seats were in in handicapped accesible section though, but she commented about how they were the best seats she ever had.

Unfortunately, the game got rained out. Neither of us were happy about it (game was a Monday by the way) but we decided to exchange the tickets at the ticket booth for an upcoming game, which was that Friday. I didn’t want to pick a game so soon, but she was all for it and wanted to get to a game. So we exhanged the tickets and then went out to dinner near Times Square. She knew a small place where she knew the bartender, and let’s just say we had a great time at dinner. We sat at the bar, chatted some, laughed some, talked with other people at the bar to keep conversations going, ate, drank, it was a good time!

Neither of us wanted the night to end, it turned out to be a nice night after the rain. So, she took a bus into the city so I walked her to her bus stop and we kissed good night. It wasn’t a deep kiss, but it was an nice kiss that felt like there was a lot of connection and, dare I say it, a little love behind it. After I left, my phone died, but later in the evening she sent me a text telling me she had a great time, thanked me for the game and said she was looking forward to Friday.

Awesome! One thing we did, was both kept one ticket just in case either of us were late. Well, then comes the Friday Date. Now, on Thursay, she sent me a text message telling me that she had to pretty much go straight home after the game on Friday night and could not hang around. Basically, she had to get to her job to drop off something to her friend, then said she needed to catch her bus (latest bus was 1:30am) and had work early the next morning.

Ok, of course suspicions were raised a little bit, after all, it was a Friday Night and here is a girl from what I gather, likes to party a lot in clubs in NYC on Friday nights until 4:30am. But, I chose to believe her. This doesn’t sound like a made up story. She also told me that she wanted to tell me this because she didn’t want me to think I was ditching her or she was bailing out on the date. I told her it was fine and that I was still looking forward to seeing her.

Now, comes the date.. ugh. So, I had to drive straight in from work that evening, so I left early so we would make the train. Our seats weren’t as great that day, they gave us nosebleeds. So, as I get into the city, she told me she missed her bus and she has to make the next one. We decided it would be easier if we met by her work since she had to come back that way. So I parked in a deck near there and as I was leaving, I almost forgot my ticket. The attendant actually tracked me down to get it, which worked out for me.

So, she was running late again. She finally arrived and this time, dressed up. Hmmm, alright. So I give her a hug and kiss on the cheek. She was being really cold towards me though, weird. Ok, whatever, maybe she was stressed. I know I had a stressful week, almost lost a friend and had a boss pressure me. Apparently, she was working mad hours that week and was starting to feel sick. So, we got on the train and I tried making some small talk. She didn’t seem too chatty.

I did get out of her that she had to go to her work to give her friend a pair of shoes to borrow because her friend wanted to go out that night and needed shoes. Now, the only shoes she had was the shoes she was wearing on her feet. She wasn’t carrying an extra pair of shoes. Ok, but maybe she had an extra pair at work or maybe she was swapping shoes, who knew. She still looked good though and dressed nice enough to go out. Maybe she was going out with her friend and didn’t want to tell me?

So, we get to the stadium, got there in the middle of the first, walked up the ramp to the top, she wasn’t happy about that. Thought we should have taken the elevator. We get up there and she wanted food and drink. She told me she was getting two beers right off the bat because she didn’t want to have to make a trip in the middle of the game for beer. She then said "Is that ok with you?" She didn’t seem confident in the fact that this didn’t bother me, and it didn’t. But I found it odd that she asked "Is that ok with you?"

So we are in line for food or beer and she turns to me and says "Well, I have to use my credit card for this. Is that ok with you?" I then told her "It’s fine, but if you want to make it easier, let’s just put your stuff together with my stuff". I was trying to insinuate that I would pay for her. She kind of didn’t get that and paid for her own, so I paid for my own.

So, she went and got a hot dog and two beers and also went out of her way to another stand for a pretzel. After all was said and done, I was the one who was carrying 3 beers, 3 hot dogs and a pretzel up some steep stairs. Needless to say, some beer spilled because New York/New Jersey has this thing about no lids on drinks.

Ok, so we sat down, and I had beer on me and my hot dogs. As we sit down, enjoying the game, she was sitting there and she was getting lots of texts. She was alos responding back. At first, it was her brother. Ok, cool, I can respect that. Then she was constantly texting some guy that was also at the game, a friend of hers. She did tell me who it was, but the way she was texting, she was hiding her phone from me. I did say to her "If your friend is here, do you want to meet up with him and say hi?" She pretty much said no.

Alright, cool, whatever. I did catch one text thought she wrote, yeah I happended to catch a glimpse when she put it in plain sight for me. It said something along the lines of "1 and 13, why don’t you come out and join us?" Now, to me, 1 and 13 sounds like a cross street in NYC. Hmm, suspicions arise now about her plans for the evening.

So, after she gets done texting, she finally puts her phone away…this is about 6th inning, 5 1/2 innings of texting, making me feel like I am boring her if she is focused more on texting than the date at hand. As she puts the phone away, her phone happens to call mine. Ok, weird, but I guess a button got pressed or whatever. So, I tell her that she is the second Teresa that I know and a second Teresa in my phone. She said "Oh, people have nick names for me, so you can use a nickname if you get confused".

I showed her that she was Teresa in my phone and said "well, how about a last name? I don’t even know your last name." Hmm, and this was the truth. After over a month of talking and a date, I had no idea what her last name was. Heck, she knew mine right off the bat. So, I asked her that question and she turned to me and said "Do you really think this is the time or the place to have this discussion?" Uh oh, sore spot. I just said "I"m sorry, you’re right." I immediately knew I fucked up. I got silent for almost a whole inning. Maybe she was right, that wasn’t the best place to ask, but then again, if she couldn’t tell me there then when was I going to find out?

Finally, I sucked it up and went back to normal conversation. She wanted some candy, so we got and shared candy, I bought. It was 7th inning and I asked her if she wanted any more beer, if she was finished with her two, and I would go get it. She said she wasn’t done and thanked me for the offer. She then had to go to the bathroom, came back after the seventh inning stretch and yep, she bought herself a beer after I asked her if she wanted another one (and heck, didn’t even ask or offer to get me one either, both things rude on her part).

During the next inning, she was coughing a lot. I asked her if she was feeling sick and she told me she was. She also said to me that she was supposed to take her medication but she didn’t do so at all this week, so that could also be why she was getting sick. Uh oh, medication? Apparently, she suffers from anxiety, and while she didn’t specifically say she was taking meds for that, I think this is what she meant.

So, the game was pretty much over, Yankees lost. We left a little earlier because we knew they were done. She commented to me on how I was a bigger Rangers fan than Yankees fan but said that was ok. Ok, so we got to the train station and I mention to her that I had Rangers tickets. We agreed earlier in the week to go to a game together. So I asked her if we were still on for that game, which was on the Sunda (two days later) and she said sure. I asked her if it would be easier for me to pick her up and she told me she would be fine with that.. ok cool. Things seem back to normal.

So, we got on the train, and all of the sudden, she had to pee really bad. The train was pretty crowded so I let her sit, and chose to stand. I’m pretty sure she wanted me to sit down next to her but there was just no room. So as we were on the train, she had to go really really bad. She got to the point where it looked like she was ready to drop her pants and go right there. I asked her if she wanted to get off at a safe stop and she said she would hold it in.

Well, while on the train, she was talking to these two guys. The guys busted on her a bit for having to go really bad. She then asked the guys "Hey, what’s the best station to take to get to the east village?" Hmm, suspicions up again. East village? 1 and 13? Sounds like to me she was heading there. But, I didn’t say anything and just thought "maybe she is asking for her friend"

The train was experiencing problems as we approached 80th street. We had to take the stop for 50th street, which was right near her work. So, the train conductor was saying something over the PA system which I could honestly not hear. All I heard was a problem with a switch on the track, stop near world trade center, train across the way is going the same way and you can take that train.

So, she asked me should we take the other train. I basically told her let’s get on it, just to be on the safe side. So we do, and the train goes right by her 50th street stop. Right then and there, she freaks out on me! "WHAT TRAIN DID YOU PUT ME ON?! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING?!" I try to be calm an say "it missed your stop, I have no idea what the next stop is but it’s probably 42nd street". So, she asked someone on the train and the kid said to her "This train is going straight to hell!!" Uh oh, that wasn’t the best thing to say and thanks for making my night worse buddy.

Anyway, sure enough, the train stopped at 42nd street as I thought it was. Well, she was so lost. "Where are we? I don’t know this station. I need to use the bathroom! Do you even know where to go in here?" Of course, the signs are clearly obvious as to where to go. She should be lucky, 42nd street station is nice.

So she uses the bathroom and comes out and I ask her if she feels better. I then lead her outside near the cabs and ask her if she wants to take a cab. She again freaks out on me "I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE I AM! I NEED TO BE ON 50TH AND I DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET THERE!!" Keep in mind, she is the one from NY lol. So, we get outside and ask her again if she wants to take a ab. She responds to me "NO, I ALREADY SPENT ENOUGH MONEY TODAY! YOU GOT ME ON THE WRONG TRAIN AND NOW I DON’T KNOW WHERE I AM GOING, LET’S WALK!"

So, of course, she starts walking in the right direction. Some lady, stops her and asks her where Times Square was. She tells the lady she isn’t from here and points her in the opposite direction of where she should be headed. I was outside and told her we were only 8 blocks away from where we need to be and I knew where we were. Her response "I’M GLAD YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE!"

Yikes, this isn’t going well, is it? So, she is walking all over the place and then decides that yes, she wants to take a cab, so she walks out into the middle of traffic and opens a cab door and says this "I’M TAKING A CAB, YOU CAN KEEP WALKING IF YOU WANT". So I tell her "No, let’s take the cab together. I got the fair, it’s the least I can do." At this point, I’m thinking "man, did I really do something bad?"

So, we get in the cab and she sits all the way in the corner, as far away from me as possible. Yikes! We take the cab the whole 8 blocks to her work. I walk her to her work, because my car is right down the road, and apologize for getting her on the wrong train and for any other nonsense. She said it was ok… and then we kissed good night (huh?!) Go figure, still kissed good night. Ok, so maybe she was just over reacting on things, who knows.

It was only about 10pm or so, so she had plenty of time to catch as many buses as she could. Now, I had it in my mind that maybe she thinks I’m going to follow her and see where she was going after I said good night. I didn’t do so. I just walked back to my car. But in my opinion, I think she had every intention on either going out with her friend to a club that Friday night or was meeting up with another guy.

So, the next day rolls along and I had to take a dry run to a train station close by to her since the plan was to pick her up and take her to the hockey game. I needed to know where the station was so I don’t get us lost and have her freak on me. As I was driving home, she sent me a text. No, it wasn’t a thank you for taking her to the game last night, like she did earlier in the week. It was basically a "Sorry, I can’t go to the game with you. I’m so exhausted and I’m still feeling sick" So, I sent her something back, told her it was ok and to feel better and we would get together again soon, probably after he planned vacation.

So, I figured, let me give this girl some time to cool off. I found another girl, a friend, to go with me to this game anyway. I said to myself "I’ll contact her on Thursday, the day before she leaves to see friends and family in Vegas, to check up on her." Well, the day before, she decided to defriend me on myspace. Hmm, ok, maybe it was an accident. I posted a bulletin and she might have hit delete this friend. It doesn’t ask for confirmation either. So, I sent her a text the next day, wishing her a safe trip, to have fun and suggesting to get together when she gets back.

Now, she ended up being gone for a week. I decided not to bother her when she was on her vacation. Heck, let her have her fun. I did question her about the myspace deletion through a message on there. She read it, didn’t respond. I asked her if it was accidental, but said it was no big deal, it’s only myspace anyway. So, she went on her vacation, the week she came back I sent her a text asking her how her vacation was… I got no response.

Ok, weird, I guess she really is trying to throw me a hint. Later, at the end of the week, she also decided to delete me from her favorites on her single site as well. Ok, now this was bothering me. Here I am, trying to figure out what I did wrong to the girl. She couldn’t even tell me, she would just ignore me cold turkey. So, I waited a few days and tried to shoot her an e-mail. Basically, I told her a guy could take a hint, I didn’t know what I did wrong, apologized if I did or said something offensive to her and told her if I did, it was not intentional at all. Told her I would leave it up to her if she wanted to speak to me, she knew how to contact me. She read it, didn’t delete the message and that was it.

After that, I never contacted her again. It’s been about 3 months since this happened. From what I gathered, the week after I sent that e-mail, she was really smitten with some guy. To me, it sounded like she met someone else and just did not want to tell me. Apparently, within that same week, she couldn’t stand "boys" any more and wanted to find a "real man". I’m sorry, but I never acted like a boy in my mind… so I got offended. And yeah, the only thing she didn’t block me from was her AIM name, and even though it’s on my friends list, I refuse to talk to her. I’m sure she knows I am there.

Lessons Learns: If they are playing games from the beginning, they are going to end up playing games at the end as well. Don’t stand for playing games at the beginning and also don’t apologize for something you didn’t even do wrong. Another lesson was to make sure I go out on a day that I know I had time to relax and I would be in a more cheerful mood, instead of feeling a little stressed.

CLIFF NOTES
Girl kept canceling on dates for a month, first date was success, second date girl turned into psycho, completely cut off contact
Date number 4 isnt totally fat. She suffers from Pectus Excavatum.
Flared ribs and sunken i sternum. Thats why her boobs look awkward pointing in. and her ribs are actually very flared.
But overall this was a great thread to read. Thanks for taking the time for making this thread.

Not a problem. I enjoyed sharing these stories for the most part. I was a bit reluctant at first, for fear that maybe one of these girls read this board and would go ape on me… but you know, it doesn’t matter. If they did, they can see things through my eyes now.

Anyway, I probably won’t be sharing any more future stories (if there are any more). Seems like when I write about them, while they happen, they get worse.

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